Aldeer.com Forums Alabama Deer Talk Serious Deer Talk Forum Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)

If it fails then you are still stuck with the 100 yards crap that even the state can't all get together on what it means.

I may be remembering it wrong but as I recall the 100 yards and out of sight rule still had some kind of vague "If it helped with your hunt" wording that pretty much allowed a GW the ability to ticket you at their discretion even if you were 100 yards away and not in direct line of sight. Yep, that vague crap needs to go.

Not only is the 100 yard rule a little vague, but the GW's have their interpretation and the judges have theirs also.

^^^^ so true @ 257. That lush green patch full of oats, wheat, etc. is primitve.

I dont care one way or the other. It is amazing the people that are against it, WHY? If you dont like it, dont agree with it, Dont Do it, dont buy the bait license. Hunt strict “Fair Chase”.. Nothing changes for you. Why would you care if someone throws corn? If your such a naturalist, why aren’t you standing up against the high fence deer hunting?

Good luck getting a straight answer in response to that question that makes any sense. I never have.

JMO but I imagine anyone against baiting is probably vehemently against high fences. I could be wrong.

My opinion is this,..if someone wants to use corn..let him. It is no silver bullet to kill deer believe me. We use corn in KY but we sure didnt kill any big bucks eating it. Im sure some folks do..good for them.

I dont give a flying EFF what other people do. If it is legal then good luck.

The idea of being against it because you dont like it?

Well, that is the same logic the liberals use over our guns. Since they dont like it...noone should be able to have them.

If you think youre going to have more baiting just because they make it legal youre pretty wrong. People are already baiting..oops..I mean supplemental feeding now.

They still will no matter what the law changes to. So Im all for it...each their own. Either make it legal, or illegal...but this mamby pamby halfway laws like out of line of sight and over 100 yards type stuff is a freaking joke.

I probably wont feed any but if someone else wants to have at it.

Just because you dont agree with it, or do it ...well thats your opinion.

But dont FORCE your standards on others because you dont like it. Thats what liberals do....IMO.

Its not hard to find people against high fence hunting. With the fence all you gotta do is stay out of it. With corn it will change the movement of the deer and if you don't feed at all on your property then your neighbor is going to suck a good bit from you. So basically if it passes then everyone is effected.

I give you a straight answer on why I don't like the idea. Our neighbors are all wealthy people who, as judged by the past have no problem hunting over corn. One in fact was buying a ton and a half a week before the GW shut them down. Just as people don't like neighbors with a brown is down mentality, I don't have the funds nor the desire to get into a corn-a-thon war with our neighbor. It's as simple as that.

If it does pass though, I'll live but I don't like anything other than it is legal or it is illegal. No 100 yards crap that the state it that passed that can't even all get on the same page about and no buying permits. To me that is like the state selling permits that will allow you to go 15 MPH over the posted speed without getting a ticket. That is why I would rather see them just say it is legal with no stipulations if they are going to allow it.

So if the people whose land bordered your hunting club high fenced their land it wouldn't affect deer movement? Hmmm, good to know.



Possibly but then you could say the same thing about your neighbor planting green patches. Wouldn't they attract deer to his land if he had them and you didn't?

Money has always created advantages for people. And not just in hunting. There are members here at Aldeer that have the money to lease land in 2 or 3 places in Alabama and in several other states as well. I can't afford that. As a result they kill more deer and turkeys than I do every year. Should we make that illegal because it gives them an advantage over people like me?

Besides the truly well off can just plant whole corn fields and hunt over them now. I can't afford to do that. Have to make that illegal too I guess.

whats funny is when my land owners plants corn or soy beans in the ag fields and we hunt over them we're legal. But if i pour out corn in a food plot in the woods a hundred yards away from ag field and hunt over it, now I'm illegal.

You can get a straight answer but ask 5 people the same question and you'll get 5 different straight answers. That's the problem, they don't want clarity, it would eliminate individual interpretation

To be clear I am against high fence and corn. And yes if the fence was bordering your property it would affect you some. But not that much different from a river or something like that. And yes I know deer can swim but you know what I mean. My reason for corn is pretty much same as jawbone. We had a baiter in our club this year for a while. It only took a short time in a tree to tell when you had stumbled up on a "hot spot". I saw first hand how much different the deer moved so if it passes I will be hunting over it because im sure not wasting my time beside somebody that is without it.

It's just different now! Soo much corn in the woods! May not be from you.... But, tell that to the warden... when someone drops a load in the woods during the week and you climb in to your stand Saturday am before the sun rises, not knowing it's there... And you GET the ticket..
I paid $1100. to a club that I couldn't hunt after 13 years of being a member, because members puts it out everywhere. They hear every other club around is doing it to... so why not! This year the farmers I know sold more corn than ever and sold all they had. I love how it was in AL 25 years ago & we harvested some fine deer... now we hear about everyone else harvesting their deer on corn piles. Would like to see it pass so I don't have to look over my shoulder when I hunt, not knowing what's been put out around me...

Anybody hear if it got read in todays session?

If it's legal what's the big deal then. Other than you just choosing to gripe and moan about it. Your sinful neighbor would be legal. You could just as easily put out some corn, never mind that all your deer will then become nocturnal. What's the big deal other than some moral obligation against it. You go out to the Midwest on a guided hunt there's an above average chance there will be corn out, I bet you won't be shunning it then.

Looks like HB21 is now SB61:

http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/ALISON/SearchableInstruments/2018RS/PrintFiles/SB61-int.pdf

No.....that is a Bill that was introduced in the Senate.

It is still HB21.