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It won't really change much if it passes....... ^^^
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Ahhhhhh Texas, how ive missed you....
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Its not going to change anything here. Everyone feeds anyways. (Well baits) At least you wont have worries about being too close to some put out you didn't know of. And after 1 year of shooting everything with their nose in a corn pile the deer will only be seen at midnight till 3 am at them. Then all the city hunters that dont see a trophy buck every Saturday morning They can complain about the deer are all dead because the corn hunting. Corn only helps to a point once a deer figures it out they are as nervous as a Ho on judgment day.. And Id bet during hunting season there is corn on 90% of the private land and EVERY back yard with a spot light all on it has a pile anyways. Lot of assumptions that you have little idea about and are not true. But, OK.
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https://legiscan.com/AL/text/HB21/2018Looks like unless it is changed again that the out of state $50 per license was not included, it is $15 per license yearly. Anybody know when calendar day 17 is?
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https://legiscan.com/AL/text/HB21/2018Looks like unless it is changed again that the out of state $50 per license was not included, it is $15 per license yearly. Anybody know when calendar day 17 is? Tomorrow
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https://legiscan.com/AL/text/HB21/2018Looks like unless it is changed again that the out of state $50 per license was not included, it is $15 per license yearly. Anybody know when calendar day 17 is? So if you only hunt your own property do you still have to pay the $15 ? 
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The way I read it, yes, if you opt to use bait in a legal manner.
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I do believe it will cause deer harvest numbers to increase, does and young bucks especially.
Last edited by mike35549; 03/05/18 09:27 PM.
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The way I read it, yes, if you opt to use bait in a legal manner. Amazing that one will be able to buy themself out of being illegal.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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The way I read it, yes, if you opt to use bait in a legal manner. Amazing that one will be able to buy themself out of being illegal. Really? You didn't really think about that before you posted it, did you? 
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The way I read it, yes, if you opt to use bait in a legal manner. Amazing that one will be able to buy themself out of being illegal. I buy a hunting license or it's illegal for me to hunt. I buy a drivers license or it's illegal for me to drive..... do I need to continue?
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The way I read it, yes, if you opt to use bait in a legal manner. Amazing that one will be able to buy themself out of being illegal. Really? You didn't really think about that before you posted it, did you?  Yep I did. And from what I hear from some on here, you included, there is a lot of illegal baiting going on now. So yes, if passed the State will let one by their way out of being illegal and make the legal illegal if they don't by their way out because somebody thought that corn was the magic bullet to kill a deer.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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hypothetically speaking of course. This might reduce some pressure on clubs. For instance, You dont wanna a feeder that can be seen, so you go every week and pour out a few bags of corn. With this new bill, You just fill up the feeder and hunt over it.
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The way I read it, yes, if you opt to use bait in a legal manner. Amazing that one will be able to buy themself out of being illegal. Really? You didn't really think about that before you posted it, did you?  Yep I did. And from what I hear from some on here, you included, there is a lot of illegal baiting going on now. So yes, if passed the State will let one by their way out of being illegal and make the legal illegal if they don't by their way out because somebody thought that corn was the magic bullet to kill a deer. You have always been able to feed. The illegal part has been hunting over it. That said, if the law becomes less restrictive, why do you need to buy anything. Keep doing what you are doing being legal and not hunting over feed and you are fine. Where is it that you "must" buy a permit? A better argument would be just to go ahead and say I just don't want others to be able to do it or this is a screwed up bill and it should just be legal to start with. On that note, i bought my way out of being illegal last week. I bought myself a renewal of my driver's license. The horror of that.
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Let's say, to the post above ^^, that I don't want to hunt anywhere near the "bait" during deer season. Nada.
But I or my club/group have a feeder out with corn/protein in it on another part of the property - let's call it the Whild Bill Sanctuary - and it's a brazillion yards away over three pastures and teh swamp and creek nowhere near where we hunt.
That's "supplemental feeding" and not baiting.
Will the "privilege permit" still be required? Because if so then that's bullchit.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Let's say, to the post above ^^, that I don't want to hunt anywhere near the "bait" during deer season. Nada.
But I or my club/group have a feeder out with corn/protein in it on another part of the property - let's call it the Whild Bill Sanctuary - and it's a brazillion yards away over three pastures and teh swamp and creek nowhere near where we hunt.
That's "supplemental feeding" and not baiting.
Will the "privilege permit" still be required? Because if so then that's bullchit.
Now that would have legs as an argument. Then you have been infringed. Sad that it even has to be a discussion. Should just be either legal or illegal depending on your position and not be a fee or permit. I personally think it should be completely legal since not detrimental to the population and move on.
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100 yards and out of site is supplemental feeding and not "hunting with aid of bait."
That has been established.
If this new "privilege permit" requires a fee for ANY distribution of supplemental feed - such as a feeder in a non-hunted sanctuary area - then that's horsechit.
It's horsechit anyway, but it would be an extra steaming hot pile of horsechit.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Amazing that one will be able to buy themself out of being illegal.[/quote] Really? You didn't really think about that before you posted it, did you?  [/quote] Yep I did. And from what I hear from some on here, you included, there is a lot of illegal baiting going on now. So yes, if passed the State will let one by their way out of being illegal and make the legal illegal if they don't by their way out because somebody thought that corn was the magic bullet to kill a deer.[/quote] You have always been able to feed. The illegal part has been hunting over it. That said, if the law becomes less restrictive, why do you need to buy anything. Keep doing what you are doing being legal and not hunting over feed and you are fine. Where is it that you "must" buy a permit? A better argument would be just to go ahead and say I just don't want others to be able to do it or this is a screwed up bill and it should just be legal to start with. On that note, i bought my way out of being illegal last week. I bought myself a renewal of my driver's license. The horror of that. [/quote] If a person doesn't hunt for survival, hunting is a "sport" are there any other "sports" that don't have "rules" that the game is played by? Are there any other "sports that use public resources (in this instance free range deer) that don't have rules in place to protect the public resource?
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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