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Friend of a friend who is apparently a guy in the know, claims the baiting bill passed the senate today...
Turkeys be damned.
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Can anybody confirm this.
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Booner
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Whild Bill, can you please confirm for us?
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
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Mildly Quirky
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According to Alison it was read for the first time and referred to the Senate committee: http://alisondb.legislature.state.a...t.ASPX?BILL=HB21&WIN_TYPE=BillResultScroll to the bottom for the 2/27 posting
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Haven't heard that. It is in committee though.
You guys also need to keep tabs on SB271. This will be another common theme I'm afraid.
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Mildly Quirky
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Haven't heard that. It is in committee though.
You guys also need to keep tabs on SB271. This will be another common theme I'm afraid. Something similar to this 271 has been introduced in the past, hasn't it? Are there other states with Ag and DNR departments merged like this?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Haven't heard that. It is in committee though.
You guys also need to keep tabs on SB271. This will be another common theme I'm afraid. Something similar to this 271 has been introduced in the past, hasn't it? Are there other states with Ag and DNR departments merged like this? There are some that have made that transition. None have been for the better. Ag & Industry / Ag & Forestry agencies rarely have any enforcement wing. Ours doesn't and is already underfunded. It has been used in other states to get breeders out from under the purview of Wildlife agencies. Not sure of the intent here but that isn't a desirable outcome.
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It has been used in other states to get breeders out from under the purview of Wildlife agencies. Not sure of the intent here but that isn't a desirable outcome.
Seems like I recall an effort in 2016 or within the last couple of years in Missouri to do this, specifically with the breeders in mind as the beneficiaries.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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http://alisondb.legislature.state.a...t.ASPX?BILL=HB21&WIN_TYPE=BillResult2-22 According to this it was read for the first time in the Senate and referred to the Senate commission on Agriculture, Conservation and Forestry. Today the report from Agriculture, Conservation and Forestry was favorable. Yea 6 Nay 1
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Sounds like it may get a vote this year, especially with Gov. LovePecker not piddlin' around to muck up the Session.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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From what I saw, the house bill and the senate bill were different. I may have been looking at a old senate bill but they were different.
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Maybe someone who knows more about this will be able to enlighten me, but I would bet that the fine for baiting, even though now it will just be baiting without a license or permit, will remain the same. Also I foresee a lot of tickets for folks not having this baiting permit, if it does come to fruition. New rules will have to be put in place in hunting clubs, people will get pissed for extra pressure on the deer because of filling feeders all the time, yada yada yada.
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We have feeders that hold 650 lbs and it takes the deer awhile to empty one of them. Will really be no different than this year except you will be able to hunt right over it as opposed to being out of sight and at least a100 yds away from your stand.
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It passed the ag committee yesterday which is a huge step. The past several bills had never made it past that point. It still has to be presented on the senate floor but that should happen shortly. Jack Williams has made sure that he has the amount of support in the senate that is needed to push it through.
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God please let this fail!
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God please let this fail! I hope it passes with flying colors and everyone around me puts out tons of corn.......maybe then I can see more deer than bears lol
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All this will do is force those of us that don't put out corn to start using feeders to avoid being left behind. I'm perfectly happy with planting the best food plots that I can. The deer get a whole lot more benefit for a longer period of time from properly planted green fields than corn not to even mention the summer planting we do. Feeders give the greatest benefit to the lazy sobs that don't give the time and effort for long-term benefits of food plots
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Would suit me fine for no food plots or feeding/baiting.
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Booner
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God please let this fail! I hope it passes with flying colors and everyone around me puts out tons of corn.......maybe then I can see more deer than bears lol I don't see any bears, but maybe I can keep up with my neighbors who keep it out all year.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
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