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Yea they are running straight across our property, across our neighbors and then catching them on the road.I’m not going to shoot dogs, but comments from dog hunters about us bitching and being whiners, convinces me talking to dog hunters isn’t the solution. I’ll catch their dogs and get the game warden to cite them. 3 Times And their done for the season. If I was a dog hunter, I would bend over backwards to keep my dogs off someone’s land. You can tell from comments here, they don’t care. This is why dog hunting will eventually end. I used to be a person to believe we should try and co exsist, not anymore.
Now, I promise, I’m out✊✊ SLM Stillhunter Lives Matter
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2,000 acres for running dogs? I bet a dog could make it across that tract in 5 minutes. I’m also sure people run dogs on much smaller parcels which is even more of a joke.
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Skidboot, I will tell how we fixed that problem when we had it. Go to Walmart and buy a few big bags of cheap dog food and dump in the area where they turn the dogs loose. After the dogs find the food they will head there everytime they turn them out. The dog hunters around our place got so pissed at us for that they actually came to our camp and asked us to stop feeding their dogs. I told them I was feeding the nieghbors old barn dog and that I couldn't control what their dogs did. You recognize those words? We would get back from hunting and would have a whole pack of hounds just laying in the yard. We can play games too. I refused to bow down and kiss a dog hunters sorry arse.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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My thought on the matter is no matter if it does or doesn't mess up deer hunting, if the owner/leaser of the land doesn't want his neighbor's dogs on his land he has the right to do something about it. Especially if he has asked them to keep their dogs away before.
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Hoggin, we have their dogs on our property. I feel that disrupts MY hunting, regardless of what deer we kill. I’ve been around several dog clubs during the years. I’ve never had one that respected others peoples hunting rights as much as their own. Ive been around a lot of hunters over the years and no one has any rights but tha one talking. I just hate how increasingly no one should have right to the edge of their property, no one should own a dog or have one within 20 mile of a patch of trees no one should drive by a road close to your property during daylight, neighbors don't have rights to shoot guns on their property for fun during season at all, or talk to friends on the back porch louder than a whisper I HUNT so you have no right in hell to disturb, inconvenience or annoy me So you would have no problem with me pulling up to your house or places of businesses, parking on the street and letting my 15 dogs out and let them run all over your yard, in your house or your shops? That's what it's sounding like to me. If you wouldn't mind people doing that to you, you are a way better man than me.  Don't be completely stupid and read what I said. I believe a little common sense would go a long way and I was pretty clear about my thoughts on people intentionally disrespecting others rights. You can can absolutely come turn your 15 dogs out on my property just refer back to what my thoughts were on what to do if caught intentionally doing so
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I actually talked to a club last weekend about joining a dog club. It’s been a long time since I was in one. The only way the club gets their rights pulled is if they are in a permit county. If in a permit county they must have 1000 contiguous acres to run and if their dogs are caught 3 times in that season they loose their dog Hunting permit and it may or may not ever be reissued. If I the clubs really want to keep their dogs up they use tracking collars to know where they are and can tone them off before they cross the line. Unfortunately a lot of clubs prefer to try and kill the deer when it crosses the next rd usually on the other side of the neighbors property. A lot of dog clubs are their own worst enemies and will be the reason a really fun sport dies.
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FYI. I can’t shoot a dog and won’t allow other members to do it.
There's your problem right there. Either shoot em or keep putting up with the BS. ↑↑↑↑↑ This. Unfortunately it will be the only solution.
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FYI. I can’t shoot a dog and won’t allow other members to do it.
There's your problem right there. Either shoot em or keep putting up with the BS. Yea, that will get you no where. BY the way, that is a very serious offence in Alabama if caught by the owners. Just try one and see. Dogs do what dogs do, it is the owners who need to be held accountable.
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We ran dogs years ago when we had huge tracts of open permit land owned by container corporation and union camp. The land went all the way from letohatchee to fort deposit to Mt willing to Braggs. It had to have been 10's of thousands of acres. We could turn out near ft deposit and the dogs would be at Mt willing in no time. Killed more and bigger bucks after we started still and stand hunting. It was a lot of fun chasing those dogs but it hard to be selective when a deer is running full speed ahead of a pack of hounds, spent way more time trying to find the dogs than we did hunting
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FYI. I can’t shoot a dog and won’t allow other members to do it.
There's your problem right there. Either shoot em or keep putting up with the BS. Yea, that will get you no where. BY the way, that is a very serious offence in Alabama if caught by the owners. Just try one and see. I can't ever remember a deer dogs owner come running by me in the woods hot on the tail of his dog. He'd have to be some kind of fast to expect to witness his dog being shot. Or some kind of stupid one.
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Very few palaces left big enough to run good hounds. I stopped when the dog lease got smaller than 35,000 acres and we couldn't keep them on it. Mine went 12 miles one night and got in a fox pen. Talk about a pain in the tail bone. I couldn't imagine trying to run these small 2 to 5,000 acre tracts. I know this We have about 1500 acres in our little co - op I have a,bit over 100 myself and when dogs come through my little home place we dont see anything for 3 to 5 days. Thats just truth. So the guy huntibg sat and sun ONLY and only has say 75 acre hes pretty much screwed. Unless there's a very hig deer population and its just so good everyone's eating rainbow stew and farting cotton candy. Fact is dog hunters are going to ruin it for themselves.
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It took me a few years but I finally stopped dogs from running on my lease in TN. You just gotta be persistent.
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Good conversation. I relate to both sides. I just wanna add. To the person asking how they'd know. If you shoot one of my crews dogs. We gonna use the GPS and when we figure out what happened. I can promise the police getting called. Probably by the shooter. The best outcome for him is if they get there quick , and all he gets is a felony.
My deer hunting crew is a different story though. Some won't invest the time or getting the technology. But in the very short future, they'll have to have things up to par or they can keep they're dogs in a pen. Hunting is getting smaller for everyone.
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Deer hunting is expensive, either, leasing land or a club. I feel if I pay for the right to hunt legally, everyone should respect my right to hunt. Whether you think deer leave or dogs don't bother deer is irrelevant. If I'm on my club or lease, I'm not infringing on your hunting. All dog hunting has to be shut down, so be it. Like it or not it's a form of poaching. In the military you are taught, one mans rights end where another man's rights begin. I don't care how you hunt as long as you don't screw with mine.
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That BS should be outlawed. Call the game warden, that's what they get paid for. The only trouble I have ever had in the woods over a 35 year hunting career was with dog hunters. No respect for others.
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Many years ago two buddies and I were hunting some private land with climbers and some guys were running dogs on the property to the west. Never seen or heard such a production. CB radios blaring, dogs barking, trucks racing up and down the roads, guys yelling, shooting, total chaos. The dogs went the other way and the three of us get an 8 pt, 7 pt and 6 pt that morning, great hunt. On the way out the doggers were standing the friggin road and there were about 25 guys in trucks, etc and we stopped and showed them our deer. They had one spike between the 25 or so of them. My buddy said, "all that commotion and that's all you got? hahaha". We still laugh about that one.
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Good conversation. I relate to both sides. I just wanna add. To the person asking how they'd know. If you shoot one of my crews dogs. We gonna use the GPS and when we figure out what happened. I can promise the police getting called. Probably by the shooter. The best outcome for him is if they get there quick , and all he gets is a felony.
My deer hunting crew is a different story though. Some won't invest the time or getting the technology. But in the very short future, they'll have to have things up to par or they can keep they're dogs in a pen. Hunting is getting smaller for everyone. Better hope he doesn't end up dead for shooting a man's dog. I know for a fact I'd kill a man over my squirrel dog
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Hoggin, we have their dogs on our property. I feel that disrupts MY hunting, regardless of what deer we kill. I’ve been around several dog clubs during the years. I’ve never had one that respected others peoples hunting rights as much as their own. Ive been around a lot of hunters over the years and no one has any rights but tha one talking. I just hate how increasingly no one should have right to the edge of their property, no one should own a dog or have one within 20 mile of a patch of trees no one should drive by a road close to your property during daylight, neighbors don't have rights to shoot guns on their property for fun during season at all, or talk to friends on the back porch louder than a whisper I HUNT so you have no right in hell to disturb, inconvenience or annoy me So you would have no problem with me pulling up to your house or places of businesses, parking on the street and letting my 15 dogs out and let them run all over your yard, in your house or your shops? That's what it's sounding like to me. If you wouldn't mind people doing that to you, you are a way better man than me.  Don't be completely stupid and read what I said. I believe a little common sense would go a long way and I was pretty clear about my thoughts on people intentionally disrespecting others rights. You can can absolutely come turn your 15 dogs out on my property just refer back to what my thoughts were on what to do if caught intentionally doing so Maybe my reading skills are lacking but I thought you were bashing the guys who constantly have dogs on their place, have nieghbors who put stands on the line looking on to their property and the people who sit in their yard and shoot because they know you are hunting. We have a neighbor that does all of the above and it's aggravating but it is what it. Nothing we can do about it. Oh and I didn't intentionally turn my dogs out on your property, I turned them out on the street and because dogs do what they do they ended up on your property.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Something about hearing those dogs kick up in the morning on a fresh track. Unless you the one across the line feeding those deer trying to let those spikes and small bucks go. No different really if it is a dog hunter or the adjacent neighbor shooting all those small bucks with a bow the deer are dead and your effort will not pay off. The difference maybe the dogs came across your property and the neighbor didn't. Another difference you hear all the commotion with dogs and you know what happened. The neighbors bow hunting you really don't know are they shooting them or not, but maybe they shoot every deer they see. Point is the deer are dead either way. House dogs that run deer 24/7 can be more frustrating than deer dogs, they are both frustrating if you are a still hunter. If you have either you may be wasting your time trying to grow large deer if you are the neighbor to someone that is brown it's down. The reality is the dog hunters are easy to blame cause you hear the shots. Dogs really need a large area to roam that does not have still hunters surronding it. Which is hard to find these days.
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Heck they love to sneek over right infront of my dand house and cast out. And its always the last weekend of dog season. Right about the time our buck start roaming a bit and crossing the county grades. They see that track and cast. And there's not a dog club for miles across the woods. About 3 dirt roads and a hard road. But they will sit right there and swear to Jesus they just run over here and they couldn't catch them up.. when theres 6 or 8 trucks line along my place. And this is Exactly the same kinda crap the guys that I hunted with did too. Yes there are some good houndsmen.. ( coon hunters , tree rat hunters, bird hunters a few hog hunters and a very few deer hunters.. but most will cast on a big track in a New York second if he thinks he can run a Big Buck threw your Piddley little 1,000 acres after all there CLUB with 75 guys has what 4 or 5 thousand maybe 10,000. So they feel like they have the power. Shoot the dog. ( nada ) aint the dogs damn fault for being owned by a scumb bag. I say you Beat the living $#!% out of them when you catch them at a store or whatever. Hey works for us..
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