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globe #2355511 01/02/18 06:36 PM
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Is hunting over a trophy rock legal?


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Originally Posted By: Bamabucks14
Is hunting over a trophy rock legal?
Depends on who you ask grin


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Originally Posted By: jawbone
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Its not illegal to turn around before you get there as long as you dont make an illegal u turn or break a traffic law while doing it like most people do then they have a reason to pull you over. ask me how i know ive done it several times at road block. Its none of their business why i turned around maybe i past my turn


Then they have probable cause/reasonable suspicion to pull you over.



Not according to the law. There is case law specifically on point that says making a legal turn or legal u-turn before a road block is not probable cause.


Yep, but the operative word is legal. If you turn in any illegal fashion, they can go stop you.


So please explain what a legal turn would involve?
blinkers/hand signal or more to it than that?

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Don't back out into the road.

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Originally Posted By: capehorn24
Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: doekiller
Originally Posted By: Grant_UAB
Originally Posted By: GKelly
Its not illegal to turn around before you get there as long as you dont make an illegal u turn or break a traffic law while doing it like most people do then they have a reason to pull you over. ask me how i know ive done it several times at road block. Its none of their business why i turned around maybe i past my turn


Then they have probable cause/reasonable suspicion to pull you over.



Not according to the law. There is case law specifically on point that says making a legal turn or legal u-turn before a road block is not probable cause.


Yep, but the operative word is legal. If you turn in any illegal fashion, they can go stop you.


So please explain what a legal turn would involve?
blinkers/hand signal or more to it than that?


Most Police I see turning around usually ease off the side of the road and turn left and floor it so as to sling the rear of the vehicle around and dig up the grass and leave black marks on the road and peel out the opposite direction. I would assume this would be the proper legal way to turn around as I would not think a Leo would break any traffic laws.


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Originally Posted By: hayman
Originally Posted By: capehorn24
Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: doekiller
Originally Posted By: Grant_UAB
Originally Posted By: GKelly
Its not illegal to turn around before you get there as long as you dont make an illegal u turn or break a traffic law while doing it like most people do then they have a reason to pull you over. ask me how i know ive done it several times at road block. Its none of their business why i turned around maybe i past my turn


Then they have probable cause/reasonable suspicion to pull you over.



Not according to the law. There is case law specifically on point that says making a legal turn or legal u-turn before a road block is not probable cause.


Yep, but the operative word is legal. If you turn in any illegal fashion, they can go stop you.


So please explain what a legal turn would involve?
blinkers/hand signal or more to it than that?


Most Police I see turning around usually ease off the side of the road and turn left and floor it so as to sling the rear of the vehicle around and dig up the grass and leave black marks on the road and peel out the opposite direction. I would assume this would be the proper legal way to turn around as I would not think a Leo would break any traffic laws.


Yep; give that a try at next roadblock

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I'm offended by the derogatory use of the term Red Neck in this thread.....
I prefer to be called "country to the bone"!
Or possibly "cornbread fed" in certain situations.


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Originally Posted By: globe
I'm offended by the derogatory use of the term Red Neck in this thread.....
I prefer to be called "country to the bone"!
Or possibly "cornbread fed" in certain situations.


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Originally Posted By: Bamabucks14
Is hunting over a trophy rock legal?


Where's good ol 49er when ya need him? To your question, per Alabama code ( the law) NO.



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The funny thing is the "pen deal" is the smallest, minutest piece of this whole game check fiasco and it's the only part that "I" personally wouldn't have been in compliance with. The "pen deal" would also die down if the GW's would quit saying it. Atroadblocksoranywhereelse
It's stated as such "you either need the game check app or a harvest sheet with a pen (that works), not a pencil"...
fyi, I have a pen now so I'm good!


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I read some of the 11 pages so far, but stopped to say this.

Individuals need to Respect the LAW...as in the actual constitutional laws of the land...first and foremost. In a nation of such great freedom and liberty, respect and compliance with the Rule of Law is important and a civic duty. Everything else we do as free citizens revolves around this simple concept at the benchmark for attitudes, actions and behavior.

Further, in order not only to maintain our personal liberty but to restrict over-reaching government actions, we need to hold the law enforcement agencies and personnel to a high standard of ONLY acting within the boundaries and guidelines of the law. If citizens are to be held to account to obey and comply with the law, then likewise so are the agencies hired by the people to enforce and administer the law.

We should strive toward excellence and demand the 2way street of liberty and the rule of law should flow smoothly. If either "crosses the line" it should be met with proper resistance. Meaning, if you break the law you should meet enforcement and appropriate punishments for the violation and the circumstances around the violation. If the enforcement encroaches or infringes on constitutional liberties, then it too should be meet civic resistance and options for stopping the infringement (stand firm on rights, use the courts, change the laws, etc...)

Personally, I don't like the idea of roadblocks at all. For the protected right of freedom of movement, there needs to be a suspicion of a crime or some other probable cause to suspect a free person needs to be stopped, questioned, show ID, papers, licenses, etc... If there is a valid suspicion of probable cause, then investigation is a good thing. Intellectually this is what I value.

Real world, I'll admit I've gone through road blocks and simply showed ID and insurance to be on my way quickly because my time was more valuable than trying to "fix" improper road blocks in the moment. Also real world, I've always followed up with either calls or letters to the agency expressing my opinion on the same. Some times though, there are infringements that require a citizen to stand firm on principles and the rule of law. A GW doing a road block on a public road to check for hunting licenses and harvest records when simply traveling and not hunting would be one of those times.


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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: Bamabucks14
Is hunting over a trophy rock legal?


Where's good ol 49er when ya need him? To your question, per Alabama code ( the law) NO.

Haha thanks 2dogs


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Originally Posted By: rulebreaker
Don't back out into the road.


That's the answer I was looking for.

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Spot on again Stray


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Two things I am always surprised by on this board-

The amount of super intellectual, constitutional lawyers.
The amount of super wealthy, financial planning geniuses.

I reckon what's so surprising about it is that in my dealings with people in general, 99.9% have zero knowledge in either area. But 99% of y'all are boldly confident (actually arrogant and rebellious)about our laws and how they pertain to the most obscure details of life. And there's another thread about the stock market being up, and apparently most people on here are day traders who watch their 401k on a ticker and boldly know exactly what and when to do. rolleyes "When the market hits X, I'm going to stratify my investments into blah, blah, blah..." Wow, just wow.

I have ZERO problem with a roadblock. Period. Whatsoever. In no way, ever, in reality or mental conception, does this trample on your "liberty". It is a way for authority to inspect what they expect. You are on a PUBLIC road, they are the authorities over said PUBLIC road. If the game warden wants to see my license and my pen, I've got it. Thank you, sir, for trying to catch the outlaws. Now, if he comes to my house and wants in for a "random inspection", THEN we have a problem.


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I fail to see how a random inspection in your house is any different than a random inspection in your car for a hunting license when you are NOT hunting.


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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Two things I am always surprised by on this board-

The amount of super intellectual, constitutional lawyers.
The amount of super wealthy, financial planning geniuses.

I reckon what's so surprising about it is that in my dealings with people in general, 99.9% have zero knowledge in either area. But 99% of y'all are boldly confident (actually arrogant and rebellious)


I quit reading at this point and got a good laugh at the irony and lack of self awareness.


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Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave
I fail to see how a random inspection in your house is any different than a random inspection in your car for a hunting license when you are NOT hunting.


Exactly.....


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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Two things I am always surprised by on this board-

The amount of super intellectual, constitutional lawyers.
The amount of super wealthy, financial planning geniuses.

I reckon what's so surprising about it is that in my dealings with people in general, 99.9% have zero knowledge in either area. But 99% of y'all are boldly confident (actually arrogant and rebellious)


I quit reading at this point and got a good laugh at the irony and lack of self awareness.


Just a wee bit of difference in having strong opinions about deer hunting and having deep, comprehensive, and correct understanding of laws. Wouldn't be surprising if Doekiller or other folks, you know, who are ACTUAL ATTORNEYS, expressed points about these things. But when there are 100's of people on a deer hunting message board, many of us having little education, are wordy and adamant about laws and constitutionality, then it's just a little bit of an eye roll.

Now, for all I know, y'all might actually be right about all of it. I DON'T KNOW! My point wasn't really about the minutia of the laws, it was particularly about the supposed legal knowledge of common folk.

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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Two things I am always surprised by on this board-

The amount of super intellectual, constitutional lawyers.
The amount of super wealthy, financial planning geniuses.

I reckon what's so surprising about it is that in my dealings with people in general, 99.9% have zero knowledge in either area. But 99% of y'all are boldly confident (actually arrogant and rebellious)


I quit reading at this point and got a good laugh at the irony and lack of self awareness.


Just a wee bit of difference in having strong opinions about deer hunting and having deep, comprehensive, and correct understanding of laws. Wouldn't be surprising if Doekiller or other folks, you know, who are ACTUAL ATTORNEYS, expressed points about these things. But when there are 100's of people on a deer hunting message board, many of us having little education, are wordy and adamant about laws and constitutionality, then it's just a little bit of an eye roll.

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That's rich.

Btw, Doekiller has chimed in on this subject and if you weren't so busy giving your low opinion of everyone else you could have read it.

I guess since you have no formal seminary education you will no longer be engaging in discussions with those who do, like PoorCountryPreacher. I'm also assuming you won't continue ranting about not being able to find a church with correct theology because these highly educated ministers don't have the grasp on it that you do. You know, because of education and all that stuff.


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