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Old Mossy Horns
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Turnips are good for aerating and breaking up compact soils as well. I have a ridge top plot that gets a steady diet of turnips every year specifically for that purpose.
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We have scaled our efforts back further and further every year. This year we spread the seed, bush hogged any really tall fields or really thick areas that were too tall for the seed spreader. Sprayed round up. Took us around 6-7 hours total and 2 weeks later our fields look great. I finally got my dad on board after he has seen how good the fields look with minimal effort.
We will let them grow all summer and not touch them until it is time to plant next fall. I am also going to experiment with at least one field next year and skip the spreading seed part. I feel like i probably have a good enough seed bank in the soil from 10+ years of planting the same crap that i would have success without even seeding. I could be wrong but i think it will at least do something.
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We have scaled our efforts back further and further every year. This year we spread the seed, bush hogged any really tall fields or really thick areas that were too tall for the seed spreader. Sprayed round up. Took us around 6-7 hours total and 2 weeks later our fields look great. I finally got my dad on board after he has seen how good the fields look with minimal effort.
We will let them grow all summer and not touch them until it is time to plant next fall. I am also going to experiment with at least one field next year and skip the spreading seed part. I feel like i probably have a good enough seed bank in the soil from 10+ years of planting the same crap that i would have success without even seeding. I could be wrong but i think it will at least do something. That's awesome!....Ain't it fun trying to persuade someone else to try something different??? 
Folks that know don't shoot old does........ 
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Well I gave up the disc a couple of years ago and this year gave up the sprayer. I seeded and bush hogged just before the last big rain. The fields got another inch a week later and I don't think I've ever had this good of germanation.The summer cover that got bush hogged isn't making any attempt to green up and we have a frost chance coming.I know this Oct is wetter than usual but waiting a couple of weeks before average frost date should hold up in years to come and do away with spraying all together. The only thing is we have a really wet summer I might have to bush hog mid summer to keep the future thatch from getting to thick.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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. The only thing is we have a really wet summer I might have to bush hog mid summer to keep the future thatch from getting to thick. ….or just mow taller at planting and leave more biomass standing in the air…..or don’t mow at all……things to ponder and experiment with. One thing I have in mind is using yuchi and durana clover to push back the date of when the initial summer crop of native vegetation jumps out of the ground. If I can keep the field covered with cereal rye and yuchi (maybe some hairy vetch...legume....N) until the end of June and then bring in at least some durana for the latter half of the summer…..then maybe I can keep that biomass at the “just right” level…..not too thick, not too thin. Here we are back at the weedy clover patch again…..Doesn't it begin to look different now? 
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I don't know why it won'y turn upright but this is my fields after 3 weeks. I think my seed crew might have slacked just alittle on the seed amount but they should turn out fine [img:center]  [/img]
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Turkeymaster…..you can always go back and broadcast more cereal rye if you need to. Starting to see a lot of browsing pressure on the turnips….  I noticed several of them that had been pulled completely out of the ground…… 
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My throw and mow fields are pretty thick. Im going to have to top dress some rye on my disced fields at the club.
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Two weeks of growth. [img:center]http://  [/img] [img:center]http://  [/img]
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Looking good!....You should see it really take off over the next two weeks after the rain we just had. Have you hit it with any nitrogen yet?
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I need to kick it with something. I put out coop trip 13 with lime in these two fields this time. It was the worst fertilizer I've ever spread. I won't make that mistake again.
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Where can you buy cereal rye at?
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Any feed store should have it.
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I need to kick it with something. I put out coop trip 13 with lime in these two fields this time. It was the worst fertilizer I've ever spread. I won't make that mistake again. Add 1-2 bags of 34-0-0 per acre..... Once you get the field where its holding nutrients well, you'll be able to just top off your P&K in the spring and then only add N at planting and in the fall. This last spring my test showed I didn't even need any P and only a little K. If your fields need lime, go ahead and start planning that for spring. It'll make a huge difference in plant growth and fertilizer utilization.
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Young pokeweed that came back up in my new woods plot…… 
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It's killing me not to check on my plots this week. Gonna be another week before I get back up there. I hope this rain kicked it into gear.
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See pics below from our large field that was completely Throw n' Mow. Exactly two weeks from planting when the pics were taken. Looking good!!   Across the road looks a little thin, but there is only Radishes, Turnips and Clover as an experiment  Well we put our hat into the Throw n’ Mow ring this weekend with baby steps!
Did a side-by-side comparison on a ½ AC plot and an entire 1 ½ AC plot that is adjacent to the house and doesn’t get hunted.
Stuck with the traditional method on the rest of the fields, but got it all in before the rain. Cereal Rye, Coker Oats, Austrian Peas, Clover Mix (Crimson, Ladino & Arrowleaf) and Daikon Radish, along with the recommended fertilizer from the soil tests were applied.
Can’t wait to see the results.
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Nice looking plots! 
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We couldn't throw and mow this year. We had a really thick and healthy crop of wheat, oats and rye from last season. When it laid over around May, it really suppressed the weeds this summer. We didn't get the usual thick, 6' high weeds. The one thing that we did different was spread 33-0-0 in December. You could tell it made a difference but we decided not to do it this year. Nobody wants to do the extra work. When we sprayed late in the Summer it just flattened everything. There was plenty of debris on the ground but it was too low to mow. So, I made one pass with the disk and scratched the surface, seeded and then made one pass and scratched it in. It was still a big deviation from how we used to do it. I remember when we used the deep tillage approach and would disk until every single blade of grass and weed was completely turned under. One of the biggest things I've learned from throw and mow is that it's not necessary to turn everything under to get a food plot to grow. Since we've switched our tactics we have saved a lot of time and diesel fuel and not one deer has complained.
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We couldn't throw and mow this year. We had a really thick and healthy crop of wheat, oats and rye from last season. When it laid over around May, it really suppressed the weeds this summer. We didn't get the usual thick, 6' high weeds. The one thing that we did different was spread 33-0-0 in December. You could tell it made a difference but we decided not to do it this year. Nobody wants to do the extra work. When we sprayed late in the Summer it just flattened everything. There was plenty of debris on the ground but it was too low to mow. So, I made one pass with the disk and scratched the surface, seeded and then made one pass and scratched it in. It was still a big deviation from how we used to do it. I remember when we used the deep tillage approach and would disk until every single blade of grass and weed was completely turned under. One of the biggest things I've learned from throw and mow is that it's not necessary to turn everything under to get a food plot to grow. Since we've switched our tactics we have saved a lot of time and diesel fuel and not one deer has complained. Adapt and improvise....Nice!
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