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12 point
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I'm putting out my fertilizer Friday. Plots already about 4" tall.
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Here is the simplest way of doing this and how I should be doing it myself if I could just quit experimenting with things. So everyone recalls the hedgerow I left across the middle of the field. That row is what the whole field would all look like right now if I had just let things run it’s course this summer. The pic below is a peek inside of the hedgerow. You can see how the understory grass is terminated and ready to make hay. The overstory broadleafs have all went to seed and will just terminate now with a mowing. I have hay and higher carbon OM ready to recycle without doing anything more than just broadcasting seed and mowing. I have my soil still protected and root structure in place. We rotate right from one crop to the next without exposing our soil……… 
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I love dog fennel as a screen, but I hate it in a plot. Gly wont kill it and it loves to follow clover, it loves nitrogen.
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Here is the simplest way of doing this and how I should be doing it myself if I could just quit experimenting with things. So everyone recalls the hedgerow I left across the middle of the field. That row is what the whole field would all look like right now if I had just let things run it’s course this summer. The pic below is a peek inside of the hedgerow. You can see how the understory grass is terminated and ready to make hay. The overstory broadleafs have all went to seed and will just terminate now with a mowing. I have hay and higher carbon OM ready to recycle without doing anything more than just broadcasting seed and mowing. I have my soil still protected and root structure in place. We rotate right from one crop to the next without exposing our soil……… this is what I did with my fields, i didn't spray or mow all summer. my clover kept shade and has been growing the entire summer. the rest of the summer grasses give or take a few were like yours pictured below, dead and brown. I sowed the seed and bush hogged. going back on friday to spread fertilizer
"All is fair in love, War and Turkey Hunting"
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Planting oats Saturday morning before this rain comes Sunday. Sprayed gly a month ago and beat down the tall weeds with my 4 wheeler. Gonna spread the seed Saturday and then lightly disk over it with an atv disk just to chop up the dead weeds and lightly disturb the soil surface to work the seeds down below the dead stuff. Hopefully it germinates well. I don't plan on mowing the plots at all.
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And CNC I know I have given you a little jabbing in the past over some tracking dog drama in other threads, but I have to say, this throw and mow thread has to be one of the most informative I have ever read on this site. Quality work!
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And CNC I know I have given you a little jabbing in the past over some tracking dog drama in other threads, but I have to say, this throw and mow thread has to be one of the most informative I have ever read on this site. Quality work! It’s all good…..I probably deserved any jabs I got for stirring the pot.  I appreciate the comments……I’m glad to see y’all having success and running with these ideas in your own fields. 
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this is what I did with my fields, i didn't spray or mow all summer. my clover kept shade and has been growing the entire summer. the rest of the summer grasses give or take a few were like yours pictured below, dead and brown. I sowed the seed and bush hogged. going back on friday to spread fertilizer
Yep, I really think what you’ve got going is about as ideal as you could want for what we’re doing. Very efficient and effective.
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this is what I did with my fields, i didn't spray or mow all summer. my clover kept shade and has been growing the entire summer. the rest of the summer grasses give or take a few were like yours pictured below, dead and brown. I sowed the seed and bush hogged. going back on friday to spread fertilizer
Yep, I really think what you’ve got going is about as ideal as you could want for what we’re doing. Very efficient and effective. I thought about spraying but when I went and looked at my fields all summer I figured what was in the fields would work just as well. I do want to control some of the weeds because they did get too thick in some areas and choke the clover down. I also thought the grown up fields would help my fawn and poult survival, possibly even the quail that I see from time to time.
"All is fair in love, War and Turkey Hunting"
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I thought about spraying but when I went and looked at my fields all summer I figured what was in the fields would work just as well. I do want to control some of the weeds because they did get too thick in some areas and choke the clover down. I also thought the grown up fields would help my fawn and poult survival, possibly even the quail that I see from time to time.
Mowing would probably thin the broadleafs some. I think you probably need to mow it really tall though......something in the knee to waist high range. If you mow broadleafs really low during summer then you'll terminate a lot of them and your field will swing to being more grass dominated.
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Picked up a couple more bags of Elbon rye earlier along with 5 lbs of durana white clover. I'm gonna over seed a few of the bad areas I've been showing before this rain comes in and sprinkle a pound or two of white clover out over the rest of the fields. That should give me a nice mix of crimson, yuchi, and durana.....
Last edited by CNC; 10/05/17 08:58 AM.
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Does your clover you plant in the fall grow well all through fall and winter, or do you mostly plant it so the deer have something to eat in the spring?
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Does your clover you plant in the fall grow well all through fall and winter, or do you mostly plant it so the deer have something to eat in the spring? It produces some in the fall but clover really flourishes the most in the spring/summer. I add clover to give the deer something to continue to eat after the cereals mature as well as to feed N back to the soil and other plants. This is the first year I've planted clover and had my pH right in these fields so it may thrive more in the fall this year. A couple visitors passing through………  
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Stupid Turkey's...  I may need to come down there and sit that plot to make sure the deer around there like a good stand of clover in the winter...  I been doin a study on it...
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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Stupid Turkey's... I may need to come down there and sit that plot to make sure the deer around there like a good stand of clover in the winter... I been doin a study on it... I gotta throw something out there every now and then just to keep the thread interesting. Turkeys seem to do it every time. 
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I see what you did there... ....
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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I see what you did there... .... “Err…err…err…err….err…errrr…..” 
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Got two seeded fertilized and drug at the house just got my one top field to plant tomorrow when i get back from the club.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Got two seeded fertilized and drug at the house just got my one top field to plant tomorrow when i get back from the club. Sounds like you're good to go.
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Anybody know where to get clethodim / grass out max in Shelby Bibb or Jefferson counties?
“It’s enough to make a man feel sour. Burning minutes every day by the hour. Just to end up gone like everything else.”
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