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Oh yeah……I think it would an awesome idea in smaller fields where folks were having a hard time growing enough OM to get out of that initial hole. What I think would be really good to do to get someone out of the hole is to cover the field in hay and then add a coating of chicken litter over that.
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I am thinking of trying it. Think I will look for a few bales and leave them in the weather through the winter then spread on plot in spring and disk it in.
Only thing about the chicken litter is that I have a bunch of turkeys, and don't know the impact that would have on them. Thinking if I can get cow manure!
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I am thinking of trying it. Think I will look for a few bales and leave them in the weather through the winter then spread on plot in spring and disk it in.
Only thing about the chicken litter is that I have a bunch of turkeys, and don't know the impact that would have on them. Thinking if I can get cow manure! Sounds like a plan.  If you're gonna disk it then I'd do it very lightly. You want to leave a lot of that hay on the surface.
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People ask questions with all kinds of scenarios on these threads. Something you’ll hear me answer with over and over again is that cereal rye is your best friend when getting started. I’m not saying it’ll work in any and every situation but it’s about the most fail proof option you have in terms of cereal grains. This is cereal rye that I simply broadcast after mowing this bottom. I'm just showing how easily this stuff sprouts and takes root..... 
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Is the cereal rye good for a wood plot with little sun light? Regular rye grass grows there but not much else other than rocks.
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Clover is your best friend for shady spots. If ryegrass will grow there then i'm sure cereal rye will.
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Clover is your best friend for shady spots. If ryegrass will grow there then i'm sure cereal rye will. This ^^^^^^.......I've got some cereal rye growing in a new "woods" plot and so far so good. It'll likely grow but not be as productive due to less sunlight....the less sunlight you have then the less photosynthesis that takes place.
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I noticed this earlier and snapped a pic just to show the capabilities of cereal rye in the right situation. This is the heavy clay area again. This is where the soil had been exposed years ago and some areas hardened so bad that nothing is growing in spots. Look how the cereal rye was able to take root in the area where the old grass was growing. 
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Here’s another pic of the new woods plot with the cereal rye only broadcasted. It’s actually broadcast at pretty light rate too. The plan is to broadcast crimson clover into it now before the next rain. 
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This is cereal rye and wheat in a semi-wooded situation. This is an area where I’m expanding the existing plot while still leaving the water oaks. All that stuff on the right has been killed with hack n squirt…..just waiting on them to fall in order to further expand into this bottom in the future. As I do, much of the sandy field will be filled in with tree plantings. 
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What ask for when buying cereal rye? It seems all I can find is rye grass. I'm wanting something that's going to give me a good thatch layer next year. The wheat and oats leave nothing the next summer.
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What ask for when buying cereal rye? It seems all I can find is rye grass. I'm wanting something that's going to give me a good thatch layer next year. The wheat and oats leave nothing the next summer. It will most likely be Elbon or Wrens Abruzzi…..either one will be fine……should be somewhere in the neighborhood of $12-$14 a bag
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What ask for when buying cereal rye? It seems all I can find is rye grass. I'm wanting something that's going to give me a good thatch layer next year. The wheat and oats leave nothing the next summer. It will most likely be Elbon or Wrens Abruzzi…..either one will be fine……should be somewhere in the neighborhood of $12-$14 a bag Is it as easy to grow as regular rye grass?
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I got quoted $19 a bag for elbon.
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Is it as easy to grow as regular rye grass? It's pretty dang close.......
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I got quoted $19 a bag for elbon. Try calling Farmer's Feed in Montgomery.....that price is way high for this year. I think threw my ticket away already but I bought it from the Co-op in Notasulga and paid $13 something I'm pretty sure. I know it wasn't anywhere close to $19
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Pennington's version is Wintergrazer 70. $15/bag at one place and 20/20 rye is about $19/bag at the local co-op, down from last year but still higher than what cnc is getting it for. Very easy to grow and sprout within a few days after getting a decent rain.
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Another question. You talk about going back in December and giving plots nitrogen,does that hurt the clover in the plot?
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Another question. You talk about going back in December and giving plots nitrogen,does that hurt the clover in the plot? No
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