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Joined: Mar 2011
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Yes I do & have killed deer over it - I will broadcast fertilizer off my 4 wheeler on thinned pine rows to sweeten up the green briar and honeysuckle.
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I've fertilized kudzu, blackberries, Florida pusley and honey suckle. I'll admit I never hunted over it. I did it for general health of the herd. Having multiple healthy food sources promotes movement from bedding areas to feed and movement to different areas. These trails and near bedding areas are where I hunt. Getting them up and moving is the key to killing them. I've fertilized blackberries to try and boost output. My friend picks all my blackberries to make pies and jam. Yum for me.  That reminds me...I was going to make a blackberry cobbler...haha
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I fertilize all the native good sources on my farm. Careful fertilizing honeysuckle, have seen the deer eat it back to nothing. Try to put up posts to keep the farmers from spraying herbicides on it as much as possible.i have a folder with articles on each native plant and how to manage it properly. Used to get a mag that had one plant featured each month and I always put them in my folder. Wild Poinsettia and Ragweed are 2 of the best for deer.
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I've fertilized kudzu, blackberries, Florida pusley and honey suckle. I'll admit I never hunted over it. I did it for general health of the herd. Having multiple healthy food sources promotes movement from bedding areas to feed and movement to different areas. These trails and near bedding areas are where I hunt. Getting them up and moving is the key to killing them. I've fertilized blackberries to try and boost output. My friend picks all my blackberries to make pies and jam. Yum for me. My midnight snack thanks to this thread.. 
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Ragweed is great deer food.
And, you guys are under-estimating the effects of fertilizing ANY available forage.
There are 1000's of acres of highly nutritious native forage bushogfed and disced every year to attempt planting an 'ice cream' plant that never develops well enough to provide any benefit to the herd.
But, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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I totally disagree that it's not worth the money, especially if you don't have large plots and tractors. There's a whole lot more native forage than there are food plots and the native forages are drought resistant. When you do other habitat improvements, what are you doing? You are promoting native browse to propagate anytime you thin timber or disk. I would pick and choose where i did it. Basically all you need to do it, is the fertilizer itself, nothing else. It's worth it for some folks.
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A lot of good natural plants have more nutrition than the "Buck picture on a bag" stuff. Some fertilizer just helps it out a lot.
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I totally disagree that it's not worth the money, especially if you don't have large plots and tractors. There's a whole lot more native forage than there are food plots and the native forages are drought resistant. When you do other habitat improvements, what are you doing? You are promoting native browse to propagate anytime you thin timber or disk. I would pick and choose where i did it. Basically all you need to do it, is the fertilizer itself, nothing else. It's worth it for some folks. We're saying the same thing, we're just saying it differently. I agree that native browse is more beneficial than planted plots in many ways. I'm just suggesting that I wouldn't spend my money on fertilizing these native plants until I had done everything I could to stimulate this browse across my entire property. If I have a limited budget, I'm going to use it to promote native browse everywhere possible before I use any of that money fertilizing it. I'd bet 90% of landowners or lessors have some sort of projects they could implement to encourage native browse that wouldn't involve a fertilizer expense. Heck, as mentioned, Ragweed is one of the best natural forages around. You know how to stimulate ragweed on your property? You lightly disc the ground in the months of August thru November when ragweed seed is being dispersed. How many people disc anything but food plots during that time of the year?
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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I have picked out large areas in the woods that has honeysuckle and fertilized those patches then put up a treestand and watched deer eat for a hour in one spot . The fertilize does raise the protein level which helps the herd and i would think especially during antler growth season .
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I totally disagree that it's not worth the money, especially if you don't have large plots and tractors. There's a whole lot more native forage than there are food plots and the native forages are drought resistant. When you do other habitat improvements, what are you doing? You are promoting native browse to propagate anytime you thin timber or disk. I would pick and choose where i did it. Basically all you need to do it, is the fertilizer itself, nothing else. It's worth it for some folks. We're saying the same thing, we're just saying it differently. I agree that native browse is more beneficial than planted plots in many ways. I'm just suggesting that I wouldn't spend my money on fertilizing these native plants until I had done everything I could to stimulate this browse across my entire property. If I have a limited budget, I'm going to use it to promote native browse everywhere possible before I use any of that money fertilizing it. I'd bet 90% of landowners or lessors have some sort of projects they could implement to encourage native browse that wouldn't involve a fertilizer expense. Heck, as mentioned, Ragweed is one of the best natural forages around. You know how to stimulate ragweed on your property? You lightly disc the ground in the months of August thru November when ragweed seed is being dispersed. How many people disc anything but food plots during that time of the year? I got it. I'm a fan of fire in older hardwood clear cuts. You want browse , run some flames through about a 6 to 8 year old hardwood clear cut. Fire is cheap.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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My thought is that the native vegetation is much better for the herd. Especially if the fertilizer raises the protein levels.
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2dogs, fire is definately your friend when done right.
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I totally disagree that it's not worth the money, especially if you don't have large plots and tractors. There's a whole lot more native forage than there are food plots and the native forages are drought resistant. When you do other habitat improvements, what are you doing? You are promoting native browse to propagate anytime you thin timber or disk. I would pick and choose where i did it. Basically all you need to do it, is the fertilizer itself, nothing else. It's worth it for some folks. We're saying the same thing, we're just saying it differently. I agree that native browse is more beneficial than planted plots in many ways. I'm just suggesting that I wouldn't spend my money on fertilizing these native plants until I had done everything I could to stimulate this browse across my entire property. If I have a limited budget, I'm going to use it to promote native browse everywhere possible before I use any of that money fertilizing it. I'd bet 90% of landowners or lessors have some sort of projects they could implement to encourage native browse that wouldn't involve a fertilizer expense. Heck, as mentioned, Ragweed is one of the best natural forages around. You know how to stimulate ragweed on your property? You lightly disc the ground in the months of August thru November when ragweed seed is being dispersed. How many people disc anything but food plots during that time of the year? I got it. I'm a fan of fire in older hardwood clear cuts. You want browse , run some flames through about a 6 to 8 year old hardwood clear cut. Fire is cheap. BAM!!!^^^^ fire goooood
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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I just watched two does hammering the honeysuckle i fertilized this spring. Hopefully they don't destroy it before season because it is a perfect shot from my shooting house and will be a great spot for the kids to get a shot on one.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Freak of Nature
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I just watched two does hammering the honeysuckle i fertilized this spring. Hopefully they don't destroy it before season because it is a perfect shot from my shooting house and will be a great spot for the kids to get a shot on one. That's about the only way I'd do it, very specific spots. Honeysuckle is probably the best plant too.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Hogwild, I agree with you. I have to respectfully disagree with 2dogs and Yelp Softly and I don't think I've every disagreed with you two!  But here's my point... native browse is free. Ragweed, Deer Vetch, Kudzu, Honeysuckle, etc... don't cost a dime. If you plant in the spring, don't you fertilize it? So it's like fertilizing and getting the seed for free!!! This spring, I sprayed to kill and then disked in a thick stand of ragweed for I&C Peas and some soybeans. I didn't get down to my lease for several weeks and I just went down there and my planting is full of weeds or I should say, grass. I should have just left the ragweed standing and fertilized it. But fertilizing your native browse and increase the protein content is not that expensive if you compared it to planting and fertilizing. Right?
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I'm not sure how much plainer I can say it. Fertilizing is fine, IF you've accomplished all your other habitat improvement objectives.
But my opinion is that 90% of people have habitat improvement projects that will yield a better return than fertilizing native plants. I speculate that lots of people fertilize because it's one of the easiest things you can do. That doesn't mean it's the best.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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First off I'm not against it, have done it in the past. I too believe there are more cost effective things one can do, if you can do them. If that's all I had , I guess I'd do it more . I guess I'm thinking on a larger scale . If you have a large acreage of browse and cut over where would you stop? I like the idea of fertilizing targeted areas , but large scale it can run into real $. I guess my idea of size of the area fertilized is just different.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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I agree, target area's are what i would fertilize, in shooting distance from stands. I always fertilize right in front of my bow stands that i have on plots, a little heavy.
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Near impossible to do much True 'habitat management' on leased ground. Especially if it is land managed strictly for timber production.
And, don't bog the board down with the merits of spraying, cutting, burning, select-cutting and such......I realize them!!!!
But, getting that point across to people with tunnel vision focused on pine stem counts is near impossible!
So, in many instances, fertilizing native vegetation in loading ramps, roadsides and cutovers IS very effective!
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