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After christmas I plan on getting a lab and trying to train it myself. Tell me what I need to know.
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Check out alducks.com
Lots great local trainers in the area. Good info in the retriever forums.
Give me a Haller around Christmas. Eexpecting a chocolate litter due around that time.
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I like my dogs a lot better than I like most people.
Collard Patch 'Belle'
HRCH C'Hoco Candy Roux 'Coco'
HRCH Gotta Ticket To Ride 'Trip' JH
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"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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There is also a new HRC club in North Alabama. You can meet a lot of trainers who will help you at their training days. You are also welcome to train with me and my training partner in Sulligent if you would like. I don't know how far that is for you.
Oakwood Kennels Gordo Alabama
Retriever Training
Wood's Gracie RIP 12/08/03 - 01/15/16
HRCH Wood's Rascal MH RIP 07/15/06 - 01/26/17
HRCH Wood's Maggie
Wood's Gypsy
KJ Just Wood's Sebastian (Saban)
Xena Princess Warrior
�He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, and his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.� Unknown
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Laidback I was field rep for region for several years does Central Al. Retriever club still exist? Also where is this club in North Al.?
I am drinking from my saucer cause my cup has overflowed. Thank you Lord
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Bobby CAHRC does still exist and we will have a hunt test this spring. I'm not sure where the North Alabama club is located but Allen Dilliard, Kenneth Farrish, and Mike Perry are heading it up I think.You need to go with me again to some of the test at the cattle ranch. I haven't run anything with Rascal this fall but did run a couple of started test with my 5 month old pup.I trained several times this side of the cattle ranch and thought about you when I came through Greensboro. You got me hooked on the catfish at the Mustang. I love eating at that place.
Oakwood Kennels Gordo Alabama
Retriever Training
Wood's Gracie RIP 12/08/03 - 01/15/16
HRCH Wood's Rascal MH RIP 07/15/06 - 01/26/17
HRCH Wood's Maggie
Wood's Gypsy
KJ Just Wood's Sebastian (Saban)
Xena Princess Warrior
�He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, and his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.� Unknown
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The pup has to love you more than anything. Feed him treats, cheap balonga, hot dogs ect. Spend lots of time and build a trust relationship.
When you begin training only use positive reinforcement to start with. Teach him to come when called, to sit, and heal. This will teach him how to learn.
I've trained hounds, retrievers, and curs. They have to work because they love you.
"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
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Get the book Water Dog. Use his training method word for word and you'll have the best dog in the blind. Labs are very easy to train, it just takes persitence. http://www.amazon.com/Water-Dog-Revolutionary-Training-Method/dp/0525247343
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Water Dog is way outdated. Training has come a long way since it was published. There are several really nice programs out there. The cheapest is Rick Stawaki's Fowl Dogs. I have never personally used this program but heard really good things about it. Gun Dog Supply has all 3 video's for $60. Evan Graham has a very nice program also. It's a lot more expensive but pretty easy to understand. His Smart Fetch is probably the best force fetch program out there. GCT trains with his program and has some nice dogs. The premier trainer in the US is Mike Lardy and his program is Total Retriever Training. This program is maybe a little harder to follow for someone new but it's outstanding. Just pick a program and stick with it. A good book to get started with is The 10 Minute Retriever by Amy and John Dahl. Dustin on this site recommended this book to me and it's pretty much what I used to train Rascal by,
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Oakwood Kennels Gordo Alabama
Retriever Training
Wood's Gracie RIP 12/08/03 - 01/15/16
HRCH Wood's Rascal MH RIP 07/15/06 - 01/26/17
HRCH Wood's Maggie
Wood's Gypsy
KJ Just Wood's Sebastian (Saban)
Xena Princess Warrior
�He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, and his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.� Unknown
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Thank you for the book and video recommendations. Thats what I was wanting to know. What makes the Mike Lardy system more complicated?
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I'm using the lardy system for the first time and have just started so I'm not sure to be honest with you. I have been told it's more in depth in the terminology used so a new trainer might not know what he was talking about in some cases. I've only gotten up to force fetch with the program and so far it's straight forward. The TRT set of 5 disc is $149 with free shipping I think. If you choose this program and did have problems understanding it there are several of us on this board that could help you out.Like I said before you are also welcome to train with most of us anytime you would like to,
Oakwood Kennels Gordo Alabama
Retriever Training
Wood's Gracie RIP 12/08/03 - 01/15/16
HRCH Wood's Rascal MH RIP 07/15/06 - 01/26/17
HRCH Wood's Maggie
Wood's Gypsy
KJ Just Wood's Sebastian (Saban)
Xena Princess Warrior
�He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, and his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.� Unknown
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Water Dog is way outdated. Training has come a long way since it was published. There are several really nice programs out there. The cheapest is Rick Stawaki's Fowl Dogs. I have never personally used this program but heard really good things about it. Gun Dog Supply has all 3 video's for $60. Evan Graham has a very nice program also. It's a lot more expensive but pretty easy to understand. His Smart Fetch is probably the best force fetch program out there. GCT trains with his program and has some nice dogs. The premier trainer in the US is Mike Lardy and his program is Total Retriever Training. This program is maybe a little harder to follow for someone new but it's outstanding. Just pick a program and stick with it. A good book to get started with is The 10 Minute Retriever by Amy and John Dahl. Dustin on this site recommended this book to me and it's pretty much what I used to train Rascal by, Water Dog may be old, but it works and works well. I had Labs for years and used it to train several. My FIL at the age of 84 has trained more dogs than I've probably ever seen. He's finishing one now. He's the one who put me on the book. Just because it's old, doesn't mean it doesn't work.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Much better out there than water dog now days. TRT or Graham would be the best bet.
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Bama's 15 months and I taught him NO, Sit, Heel, Kennel, and Dead Duck. I'm not running any competitions so, just covered the basics and he does well retrieving ducks. Season's open here and he's gotten everything that's hit the ground (water)so far. Had fun watching him catch a diver, lol. I have used several duck wings over the summer just dragging them around and hiding them and he actually runs to the kennel when he sees a wing cause he knows I'll go hide it for him. "Kennel" is used at home as well as any ground blind I want him in while in the field.
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There is a lot of Joy that comes from training one yourself and seeing them in action doing it right. Best of luck to you. The best advice i can give you other than what has already been listed is to look into the biggest purchase you can afford of patience  They will try it for sure One day they are smarter than your best friend, the next you will swear they are the dumbest that ever walked LOL best of luck!
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm"
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