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UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

That would be underhanded and selfish. He has all the rights to hunt his own land. Sounds kinda chintzy to me.


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Maybe instead of working against him, you could work with him to help each other and see if he will monitor your land - not hunt it, but help keep watch - for poachers or illegal activities.

He has 4 acres. You have 320. He's doing things, obviously, that he believes are helping him from a management strategy. You're doing the same things, by your account.

Unless there's some kind of prior bad blood, team up and help make each other's place somewhere both of you enjoy.

If you're in central Florida, pissing him off might not be the best thing for you if he knows you don't get up there often.

Good luck.

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Maybe the deer are coming across the line from FL too!! Then what??


Then the rut dates change!


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Hell...just burn him out! confused


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Why not just hunt the trails in and out of his place instead of keeping him from hunting his own land. You could benefit from his work as well as him.

X2 VERY GOOD POST Todd thats exactly what I would do.


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Burn 'em out!

No,just kidding.

Yes, it stinks. But welcome to Alabama.

You could bulldoze a 20 yard wide swath all
the way around that measley 4 acres on your side of the line
and line it with battery operated scarecrows. :)-


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I don't think BradB got the answer he was looking for.

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I figured this might stir the pot a bit, but what would ya expect from a depraved, underhanded, selfish putz from Florida trying to keep a rightful Alabama resident from whacking his yard deer.Actually I was born and spent most of my life in Bama and the farm has been in my family for about 110 years, so I am not all carpetbagger. Putting a tower stand in your back yard 25 yards from your porch and planting a corn patch in a field has nothing to do with improving his property or managing a herd. Thats what I do on my land.It has everything to do with trying to get them in that field so he can whack them, there are darn sure no deer living on his property. Given the set up he could have a substantial impact on the population if he decides to shoot a bunch of does or young deer and every one of those deer will be coming off my property. There are also safety issues due to where he will be shooting. Call me what ya want but my opinion is 4 acres is to small to rifle hunt on.

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If there are no deer on his property then why worry about it

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The deer are not owned by the property owners. They are not your deer no matter how much work, management or whatever you do. You don't have more of a right to shoot them than your neighbor. Get over it.


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Originally Posted By: BradB
I figured this might stir the pot a bit, but what would ya expect from a depraved, underhanded, selfish putz from Florida trying to keep a rightful Alabama resident from whacking his yard deer.Actually I was born and spent most of my life in Bama and the farm has been in my family for about 110 years, so I am not all carpetbagger. Putting a tower stand in your back yard 25 yards from your porch and planting a corn patch in a field has nothing to do with improving his property or managing a herd. Thats what I do on my land.It has everything to do with trying to get them in that field so he can whack them, there are darn sure no deer living on his property. Given the set up he could have a substantial impact on the population if he decides to shoot a bunch of does or young deer and every one of those deer will be coming off my property. There are also safety issues due to where he will be shooting. Call me what ya want but my opinion is 4 acres is to small to rifle hunt on.


You have every right to manage your property the way you want. HOWEVER, he also has every right to manage his property the way he wants. If you don't like him being there buy him out, til then grow up or swap him your 320 acres for his 4 acres, I am sure he would go for that!

Or, manage your property so there will be no reason for the State of Alabama deer to go to his property.


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Looks like something out of a QDMA magazine.



Your quote seems to indicate he did more than throw up a tower and plant a corn patch.

Thus, some of the responses, including mine.

So, is he a deer-blasting moocher with a tower and corn patch or has he improved his 4 acres with some kind of serious management plan that may or may not impact your 320?

Either way, maybe talking with him would be a start to something at least somewhat amicable.

Agreed that a rifle on 4 acres amid your 320 might give you the willies, though.


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.. Anyway, since I am not to keen on him spending the next few months shooting the deer I spend a lot of time and money on I have about concluded I am gonna have to do something about it. One option is to high fence around his property which I don't have time for or want to spend the money on.


Maybe next year you should build that fence and cut back on the other stuff that ain't working for you. If the deer are leaving your property for his, then he's doing something right that you aren't doing.

Putting up a fence is a good qdm practice anyhow. All that qdm research you read about comes from studies of deer in enclosures, so, to get it right, don't leave out the important ingredients.

Your neighbor seems to be a better business minded man than you. With our qdm buck limit harvest thingy rule, it don't matter how much land you have or how much time and money you spend... you still get three bucks. Whether you have 40 acres or 320 ... it's still three bucks. Whether you have 320 ac. or 32000 ac.... it's still three bucks. Keep that in mind when you are spending all that money.

Now, since you are management-minded, let's talk about deer density. Assuming you have a deer density of 30 deer per sq. mi., you have a total of 15 deer on your property which is .5 sq. mi. in size. You are a management-minded hunter, so I'm sure you have a 1:1 ratio of bucks and does by now. That gives you 7 or 8 bucks to work with, and you don't need to kill but a third of the does to keep things balanced.

You get to kill 3 bucks and you can kill 3 does without much harm done... unless you've got a lot of coyotes. Then you might want to hold off some on the does.

Since you have only 7 bucks, and you kill only the three most mature, looks like you are out of balance again. If three of your young bucks go to the neighbor's land and he kills three young bucks, that's the only choice he had. At least you've got one buck left to breed your two or three does that are left.

So, who got the best bang for their buck? (no pun intended... NOT grin)

Put that fence up before all this happens to you. Do it now!!!

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We have a farm, and I put a lot of time and money into working on it. If one of our neighbors planted his 4 acres with soybeans and corn to improve the nutrition for deer, I'd be thrilled. If you think that by having more land than him entitles you to anything, you are wrong. He has just as much right to hunt his 4 acres as you have to hunt yours.

I'd be real careful about pissing the guy off with a high fence. If he's not doing anything illegal, and nothing you described is, then you pissing off the man who lives beside your property is not going to work out the way you want it to.


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ever think all he wants is a couple does for the freezer? what if the guy next to you had 5000 acres and thought you were stealing "his" deer? you need to stop being a crybaby and thank God your family left you with a place to hunt for FREE! I for one would love to have your problem.

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If I owned that 4 acres and I worked my tail off to make it the best it can be and you pulled that crap then you would not be able to hunt your 320 acres legally again due to the amount of yellow acorns that would show up on your place followed by the Alabama Game Wardens. There are a lot more dark nights that you are not able to get up to this state than when you can. Get real the man is legal so leave it alone.


X2. You better be glad you don't hunt around me because what this guy said is exactly what would end up happening here if not something much worse!

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thumbup Good post!
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ever think all he wants is a couple does for the freezer? what if the guy next to you had 5000 acres and thought you were stealing "his" deer? you need to stop being a crybaby and thank God your family left you with a place to hunt for FREE! I for one would love to have your problem.



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Thats pretty sorry BradB.

Live like that and you can be assured you will get the returned favor at some point. Best of luck with that.

Chances are the guy hunts a couple of times a year and you are acting like he is running a pay hunt operation (not that it should matter).

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so BradB, ya got a bunch of hard ass answers that have nothing yo do with yer actual question.......

the answer is he would be hunting illegally over bait, if it was visible from his property and he knew about it. Period.

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