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I'm not wasting more minutes of my life having this same tired old argument. I hope you take the time to research and realize that you're wrong
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Now y'all are getting to my line of thinking. That should scare y'all. To me its all about pressure in the form of human presence. A greenfield (or a corn field) once established can be kept human free. Might want to go once to add N to a greenfield. But if someone wants to add more human presence to their hunting area by filling feeders and checking for the need to be filled, I say go ahead. Just not the way I do things.
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Grumpy Old Man
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Thanks central, that is yet another good argument for Greenfield's. Checking feeders (or cameras) regular only increases hunting pressure.
I hate making a good first impression. There’s no way I can keep that shit up.
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Freak of Nature
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BTW, I haven't looked at it, but does bill include turkeys also? If it does a whole lot of unskilled turkey hunters are going to become turkey killers overnight. I know this can't make the hardcore turkey hunters happy.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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I love the greenfield argument. Its completely idiotic but always entertaining. And its the first words out if the mouths of the masterbaiters. Look asshole it's the same fraking thing you plant a Greenfield an ambush a poor little deer when it comes to feed lmao You mean a greenfield that has nutritional value to deer and other wildlife vs. corn which has no real nutritional value to southern deer. It is all carbs which turns to sugar in the body. Northern deer can use it as it is instant energy that can help them survive the cold winters. It tastes good to them though, so it has about the same nutritional and attractant value as feeding our kids a Milky Way and Snickers diet. Good post Jawbone
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Not mention a much greater benefit to the wildlife from a total habitat standpoint. Plus the time and effort invested is just a little more than dropping by Walmart on your way to the stand. Yep. 
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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If you don't have $15, you should probably be working instead of hunting Just because someone doesn't have $15 extra to spend doesn't mean they don't work. For a lot of people thats an hour or more of work. people are already paying $25 for a license and now you want them to pay an extra $15 for a "privilege" to hunt over corn thats not right
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See all the conflict that happens over the idiotic proposed bill?
And it is just proposed at this point.
Laws should DECREASE conflict NOT INCREASE it.
There is no conflict between people/hunters/landowners/lessees with the no hunting over bait law.
They should leave it alone.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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See all the conflict that happens over the idiotic proposed bill?
And it is just proposed at this point.
Laws should DECREASE conflict NOT INCREASE it.
There is no conflict between people/hunters/landowners/lessees with the no hunting over bait law.
They should leave it alone. Correct, but the head of our DCNR does not seem to understand this and instead of working to attract new hunters to the activity, he seems hell bent on driving people away by, like you say, increasing conflict, and making it more complicated to do it legally.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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ambush| a surprise attack by people lying in wait in a concealed position. be it corn or greenfield in a treestand sitting on ground or shooting house. we all ambush deer, turkey,squirrel or any other animal we hunt.
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ambush| a surprise attack by people lying in wait in a concealed position. be it corn or greenfield in a treestand sitting on ground or shooting house. we all ambush deer, turkey,squirrel or any other animal we hunt. That's all I was trying say then I get hit with a bunch of idiotic BS 
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ambush| a surprise attack by people lying in wait in a concealed position. be it corn or greenfield in a treestand sitting on ground or shooting house. we all ambush deer, turkey,squirrel or any other animal we hunt. And it is all hunting by definition whether individuals agree with the way it is done or not.
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Yea, no current conflict at all between landowners..... See all the conflict that happens over the idiotic proposed bill?
And it is just proposed at this point.
Laws should DECREASE conflict NOT INCREASE it.
There is no conflict between people/hunters/landowners/lessees with the no hunting over bait law.
They should leave it alone.
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NO. The stupid proposal is stupid.
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 33:4
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Freak of Nature
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"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Absolutely yes I will. If someone doesn't want to that's fine too. To each his own.
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Just for the sake of discussion here ... Would you pay a $15 license fee to allow you to hunt over bait?
The hunter would have to purchase a bait privilege license from the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources.
The privilege license could earn an additional $15 per year
How many laws are really passed to solve a "real" problem rather than lawmakers catering to special interests all in the name of fleecing their pockets under the guise of making things better. This has been a slippery slope ever since they started this BS. I am always cautious about the government telling me they are doing something for my betterment
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Grumpy Old Man
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That's all I was trying say then I get hit with a bunch of idiotic BS That is not "all you was trying say" and the idiotic BS was yours.
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I hunt over it for free now........
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I hunt Greenfield's, clearcuts, hardwoods, swamps and planted pines. Also have a feeder and a camera in my back yard.
But I don't consider any of those "just like" another. And a planted field of anything is not "bait". If it was, then you could say a pond or an oak tree is "bait" just the same.
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