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As has been discussed before it seems there are several black belt counties like Greene, Marengo, Hale Sumpter, Wilcox, Lowndes Montgomery and maybe a few more in that part of the state. that have always been perceived to have as many or more deer than anywhere in the state that are not in the top 10. Do those counties just not have the number of deer that they had in years past.


Top 10 Bucks. Does total
Jackson 1168. 926. 2095
Dallas. 913. 1132 2045
Bullock. 745. 1007. 1753
Russell. 847. 821. 1668
Barbour 783. 881. 1665
Tusc. 879. 711. 1590
Lamar. 703. 856. 1560
Pickens. 788. 745. 1533
Coosa 789 629. 1418
Marion. 710. 706. 1417


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Not sure how I managed to post this in here was suppose to be in deer hunting forum.


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I would suspect there are many factors to consider reviewing these numbers.

I would expect compliance to be the largest of them all.

I also doubt that you could make a comparison between deer population and deer kills. A county with a lot of small leases will obviously kill more than a county that has a lot of large leases and large blocks of private property.

For instance, it is not uncommon to hunt in a black belt county and see 15-20 deer a day. And even though the hunter saw that many deer probably still didn't shoot one.

Management practices will play a large part in how many deer are killed off of a property as well.


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I don't see how compliance would have anything to do with it. I don't see how the people that hunt in Dalls or Jackso county would be any more compliant than people that hunt in other county. And wouldn't Dallas Co fit the bill of a county that has a lot of large leases and large blocks of private property.


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Dallas County would fit that bill. I do think compliance will vary from county to county. In fact, it would almost be impossible for it to be the same in each county.

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Originally Posted By: ElkHunter
I would suspect there are many factors to consider reviewing these numbers.

I would expect compliance to be the largest of them all.

I also doubt that you could make a comparison between deer population and deer kills. A county with a lot of small leases will obviously kill more than a county that has a lot of large leases and large blocks of private property.

For instance, it is not uncommon to hunt in a black belt county and see 15-20 deer a day. And even though the hunter saw that many deer probably still didn't shoot one.

Management practices will play a large part in how many deer are killed off of a property as well.


What I'm gathering from your statements is that this wonderful multitude of data that chuck and his band of crooked politicians have been awaiting is useless.

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A lot of the counties that are not in the top 10 are what many considered "premier" counties, and have a lot of private or well managed property where people are not pulling the trigger on every deer they see. Its clear to see that Jackson county is at the top because it is a highly populated county. Counties with higher people populations are more likely to report more harvest, even if the deer population isn't as high as in other counties. More People = More Hunters = More Harvest


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Originally Posted By: teamduckdown
A lot of the counties that are not in the top 10 are what many considered "premier" counties, and have a lot of private or well managed property where people are not pulling the trigger on every deer they see. Its clear to see that Jackson county is at the top because it is a highly populated county. Counties with higher people populations are more likely to report more harvest, even if the deer population isn't as high as in other counties. More People = More Hunters = More Harvest


Not sure where you think Jackson County is, but it ain't very populated

http://www.us-places.com/Alabama/population-by-County.htm

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Originally Posted By: teamduckdown
A lot of the counties that are not in the top 10 are what many considered "premier" counties, and have a lot of private or well managed property where people are not pulling the trigger on every deer they see. Its clear to see that Jackson county is at the top because it is a highly populated county. Counties with higher people populations are more likely to report more harvest, even if the deer population isn't as high as in other counties. More People = More Hunters = More Harvest


I guess if that is the case those counties with more people should see there numbers go down after a few years of all them people shooting deer in an area with lower deer densities. And don't really explain Coosa and Lamar they are near the bottom as far as population.

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Looks like Walker Co is in the top 15 or so and I can guarantee you it has as many non game law abiding citizens as any county in the state.


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Really surprised to see how close the ratio of bucks to does killed is.

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I would suspect there are many factors to consider reviewing these numbers.

I would expect compliance to be the largest of them all.

I also doubt that you could make a comparison between deer population and deer kills. A county with a lot of small leases will obviously kill more than a county that has a lot of large leases and large blocks of private property.

For instance, it is not uncommon to hunt in a black belt county and see 15-20 deer a day. And even though the hunter saw that many deer probably still didn't shoot one.

Management practices will play a large part in how many deer are killed off of a property as well.


What I'm gathering from your statements is that this wonderful multitude of data that chuck and his band of crooked politicians have been awaiting is useless.


I started not to respond to your STUPID statement, but I gave in.

Which crooked politicians are you referring too? Did you vote for any of them, if yes, then shut up.

I am tired of listening to people slander people just because they disagree with them. The dang democrats are calling Trump a rapist and much worse. I haven't seen where he has been convicted yet. I thought we were innocent until proven guilty in this country.

I would not call the data useless. I would dang sure call it incomplete. Until everyone starts to comply and report their kills it will stay that way.

Let's try to show a little respect to folks.

Off my soap box now.


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Originally Posted By: charlie
Really surprised to see how close the ratio of bucks to does killed is.


Yea me to and would suspect they might get closer or even flip the other way by Feb 10th. Maybe folks are starting to lay off the does a little.


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Originally Posted By: mike35549
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Really surprised to see how close the ratio of bucks to does killed is.


Yea me to and would suspect they might get closer or even flip the other way by Feb 10th. Maybe folks are starting to lay off the does a little.


I don't know if people are laying off of the does or, if like most years, a doe is the hardest deer to kill right now. they have been educated all season and don't get stupid in the rut like the bucks. or Example, I sat on a food plot this afternoon and saw 7 deer. Out of the 7, only one was a grown doe, another was a fawn and the rest were bucks. I see way more bucks than does this time of year.


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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
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A lot of the counties that are not in the top 10 are what many considered "premier" counties, and have a lot of private or well managed property where people are not pulling the trigger on every deer they see. Its clear to see that Jackson county is at the top because it is a highly populated county. Counties with higher people populations are more likely to report more harvest, even if the deer population isn't as high as in other counties. More People = More Hunters = More Harvest


Not sure where you think Jackson County is, but it ain't very populated

http://www.us-places.com/Alabama/population-by-County.htm


If you took an average of "black belt" counties, most of them are going to have a lower population than most of the counties in the top 10, and what population there is, is extremely poor. Not a lot of money in those counties floating around to be spent on hunting leases. On average it takes 3-5 Black Belt counties to equal the population of Jackson County. And the people killing the deer in most of these counties are people who are traveling in from extreme south AL and even FL. (Mobile, Baldwin, Escambia (FL), Santa Rosa)

Jackson County is an easy explanation, because it does have 50K plus people but it is also, extremely large. Lot of hunting takes place there. And it borders Madison County (Huntsville) where there is plenty of $$, and a pile of people, but not much land to hunt, so where do you think most of those Madison county residents head to hunt?


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MANY people still do not realize that they are supposed to check their does in.
As a matter of fact, NONE of the people that I have specifically asked knew it.

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Originally Posted By: teamduckdown
A lot of the counties that are not in the top 10 are what many considered "premier" counties, and have a lot of private or well managed property where people are not pulling the trigger on every deer they see. Its clear to see that Jackson county is at the top because it is a highly populated county. Counties with higher people populations are more likely to report more harvest, even if the deer population isn't as high as in other counties. More People = More Hunters = More Harvest

Lol that theory sure hasn't panned out for Mobile County.


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Originally Posted By: ElkHunter


I started not to respond to your STUPID statement, but I gave in.

Which crooked politicians are you referring too? Did you vote for any of them, if yes, then shut up.


Unfortunately, no, I was not able to vote for any of them because they were all appointed. That is an entirely different argument and issue I have with this situation.

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I am tired of listening to people slander people just because they disagree with them. The dang democrats are calling Trump a rapist and much worse. I haven't seen where he has been convicted yet. I thought we were innocent until proven guilty in this country.


While chuck and co. have not been to trial over their decisions, very few of them have been based on sound biological information that has been available to them. They have been purely political, and a way for chuck and his cohorts to pad their wallet.



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I would not call the data useless. I would dang sure call it incomplete.


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Let's try to show a little respect to folks.


I'll show them some respect when they start doing the jobs they were appointed to do. Respect is earned, especially when you are in a position to serve the public.

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How do you find this Game Check site with numbers per county?


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Originally Posted By: Gotcha1
How do you find this Game Check site with numbers per county?


https://game.dcnr.alabama.gov/Report/State/Deer


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