I am getting some 20s made this season. I switched last year in my 12 to TSS and i had 2 hunts with people that crippled turkeys wasnt pot shots they just screwed up and I am hear to tell you we would have lost those birds if it wasnt for my gun and TSS. I dont promote long shots but if a birds wounded and I have a possibility to finish it of I will empty my gun. I wont say how far they were but 60 aint nothing with tss. I will shoot it long as i can get it!! Awesome pattern!