|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
89 members (Robert D., abolt300, Fishbones, Chiller, Fattyfireplug, AU338MAG, TEM, 2walnuts, 7PTSPREAD, Bread, kaintuck, BobK, wk2hnt, booner, Xbow, Joe4majors, Irishguy, Geeb, Hoytdad10, HappyHunter, CrappieMan, Conc49, BC, geeb1, znix123, Kicker, Luxfisher, DoubleShoalsJR, rutwad, mcninja, WhoMe, limabean, Solothurn, pass thru, JA, cartervj, 000buck, need2hunt, SurveyinAL, jchurch, Flyliner, DuckDown11, kpswihart, Bulls eye, Ben2, GATA87, Dean, UA Hunter, bug54, Peach, RCHRR, k bush, Pwyse, Holcomb, 3Gs, Parker243, CatfishJunkie, Sself161, Moss, outdoorguy88, Chad Burnette, Honcho, rkt, COOTER, sanderson, inatree, SC53, bamafan1966, rrice0725, coosabuckhunter, graydw1, AU7MM08, TurkeyJoe, PikeRoadHunter, MarkCollin, Exhoosier, DonH, Tall Dog, Carp54, Turkeyneck78, jmj120, 8 invisible),
602
guests, and
0
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494 |
Why do Public Land hunters scout play books and maps looking for the best place to set up right on the property line of the BEST possible private property adjoining the Public Land??
Yes, there is a reason! Thanks you for providing support for the point being made between private and public land hunting.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494 |
[/quote]How will this effect your public land hunting in a negative manner? You are worked up about something, and the core is you feel your hunting sanctuary is going to be ruined by corn in some way. No bait/food/whatever you want to call it will be allowed on public land regardless. GW's will have much more free time, in theory, when they won't have to enforce esoteric "baiting" laws on private land, and can therefore focus more efforts on making your experience on public land more enjoyable. It seems like a win-win to me. It's not favoring any one group more than another. [/quote]
Having hunted many many many years each on private lands and public lands, I clearly know the difference in opportunities available. I wouldn't hesitate to say that the GW's spend the bulk of their field time on private properties due to requests by the property owners for things like trespassing, I found a dead deer somebody poached on my property, somebody dumped a carcass on my property, people are shooting deer on my property at night, the neighbor is baiting, etc. Probably don't get to many of those calls on public property. So maybe it's not that great of an idea for the GW's spending all that time on public property and not responding to private property issues. I would think having the GW's swinging by hunting properties is a good idea if for no other reason to show a presence in the area for those folks that do poach deer at night, trespass, break in to hunting camps, dump deer/trash on other peoples properties, etc. But if that is not important just let the DCNR know that private properties don't need their assistance.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,193
6 point
|
|
6 point
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,193 |
I'm still wondering why the stare/DCNR cares if someone kills 3 bucks over corn that was poured out or 3 bucks over corn that was planted. So if a farmer plants a field then I by good fortune can lease his land and hunt it when he cuts it and kill deer, am I better than the guy that bought it poured it out and killed a deer.
I can understand wishing everyone would put in some more "shoe leather" time and scout more but the same people that do that now will continue to do so and the ones that don't won't. It's not for me to decide how others want to invest their time and resources into hunting but I can't for the life of me understand the corn rule.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 296
4 point
|
|
4 point
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 296 |
Not only do they perform recon via aircraft, but they ride your property while you aren't there as well. I have on two separate occasions, pics of wardens riding through my greenfields on their quads. We don't even ride through our greenfields! The first time they took my gate off the hinges to access the property. The second time (because the gate was chained at both ends) rode around our gate (which invited some other riders to do the same...). We had a spinner feeder (nowhere near a stand) set up with a camera on it. Your boy covered the camera with his hat so he could check how much feed was inside. Needless to say, we sold our feeders, because that is excessive bull kaka.
I believe they would be better served to concentrate on the night hunting going on every week in this area, the trespassing, the road hunting, and the folks dropping dogs in on other peoples property (and it's not even a dog area)...but it's an easy kill in most cases and a money maker.
"Now boy, are you sure you can skin griz?"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,314
8 point
|
|
8 point
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,314 |
saw it on the front page as an article in an Elmore Co newspaper today.
WDE
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,588
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,588 |
Bunch of master baiters on here. OMB
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,536 Likes: 1
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,536 Likes: 1 |
A couple of things:
1. Baiting is still illegal, supplemental feeding isn't. If you can't figure out the difference, then I suggest you don't try either.
2. Corn may not be easy to spot from the air, but concentrations of crows and turkeys aren't.
3. While the state may have limited airpower resources, the National Guard has much more. Furthermore, their pilots are required to put in so many hours of flight time. All it takes is for an LEO to ask and they will happily accommodate them on a flight. I've done it. Also had a private pilot fly myself and another detective over a scene where a dead body was found and film the scene from the air. For the record if you are prone to motion sickness, about an hour in a helicopter is enough and running a video camera from a plane window is not good. what exactly is the difference between supplemental feeding and baiting
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 173
3 point
|
|
3 point
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 173 |
Yep I got the email. What is next a Cold War between hunters and the game wardens? I thought we were in this together.
I love all of Gods creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 18,377 Likes: 77
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 18,377 Likes: 77 |
Yes. Went straight to "delete" button.
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Champions 2024-2025 ALdeer Deer Contest Champions
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 66
spike
|
|
spike
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 66 |
We've had helicopters fly over our club pre season and hover or slow down over fields. It happened this year right before bow season came in. I bet they were looking for something else at that time😉
God bless America
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 296
4 point
|
|
4 point
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 296 |
I think it needs to be all or nothing. Once the season starts, either you can hunt over it or don't have any bait on your property at all.
For instance, in VA you can put out all you want until Sept 1st, which is one month before the start of bow season on Oct 1st. After that, if it's on the ground and you are hunting within sight of it; it's illegal. Of course the loop hole is when farmers/folks that hunt "miss" the grain cart and dump a few hundred pounds in their favorite spot and somehow that pile of grain never disappears all season long...hmmm.
"Now boy, are you sure you can skin griz?"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 16
spike
|
|
spike
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 16 |
Folks not sure if it's already been posted but they're certainly using helicopters for scouting. I was in Dozier (south Crenshaw) this am and I had one circling around for probably an hour or so. In my 10yrs of hunting that place I've never seen this happen before.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,261 Likes: 18
Mildly Quirky
|
|
Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,261 Likes: 18 |
Originally Posted By: SuperSpike We've had helicopters fly over our club pre season and hover or slow down over fields. It happened this year right before bow season came in. They were dropping the famed black panther kittens that grow up and live everywhere.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,888 Likes: 1
Supreme Fact Checker
|
|
Supreme Fact Checker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,888 Likes: 1 |
How did they get your email address?
I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!
|
|
|
|
|