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ya'll do realize that if you are a guest of the landowner you do not have to have written permission, on you or otherwise????
arresting someone who is a guest of the landowner for no written permission is an act of false arrest. hmmmmmm So I really shouldn't have received a warning? Heck, if you are private property with permission from the land owner by definition you could be considered a guest. Maybe it applies to leased land, like leased from the state?
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner.
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest."
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WoW!!! How did y'all go from hog hunting to having pocket ranger on your phone. It's obvious the man shouldn't have got a ticket for not having a harvest record on him since he wasn't hunting for deer.
Also I see y'all guys will argue just about anything you have the opportunity too
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LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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People who like cheese should keep there mouth shut! All you do it run up the price of cheese and make it harder for everyone else to survive.
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You're not a real cheese eater if you don't like mature cheddar that's been aged for many years. Gotta let them young cheeses grow.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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How can you say that Clem, when I know you and your friends are in the "If it spreads its dead" group? Always eating those spreadable cheeses, then telling everyone else how they are supposed to eat cheese. SMH.
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*sigh* You got me. It's that anarchy thing. Spread = Dead
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest." If I tell Hard Head Strutter he can go deer hunting on my property and GW sees his truck and goes to check the hunter , he may write Hard Head Strutter for all violations including hunting without. Now I have not asked GW to enforce the written permission law on my property, he just sees a hunter to check. On court day I show and tell judge I gave Hard Head Strutter permission to hunt, I expect him not to be prosecuted for it, but please throw the book at him for everything else. I bet $ that's exactly what happens.
Last edited by 2Dogs; 12/14/16 09:32 AM.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest." If I tell hard head strutter he can go deer hunting on my property and GW sees his truck and goes to check the hunter , he may write hard head strutter for all violations including hunting without. On court day I show and tell judge I gave hard head strutter permission to hunt, I expect him not to be prosecuted for it, but please throw the book at him for everything else. I bet $ that's exactly what happens. Some of you seem to miss the point of written permission. The law isn't that you must have permission, but it is that you must have written permission on you. Same as Alabama's Mandatory Insurance law. That law is very clear that not having proof of insurance on you is the same as not having it at all.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest." If I tell hard head strutter he can go deer hunting on my property and GW sees his truck and goes to check the hunter , he may write hard head strutter for all violations including hunting without. On court day I show and tell judge I gave hard head strutter permission to hunt, I expect him not to be prosecuted for it, but please throw the book at him for everything else. I bet $ that's exactly what happens. Some of you seem to miss the point of written permission. The law isn't that you must have permission, but it is that you must have written permission on you. Same as Alabama's Mandatory Insurance law. That law is very clear that not having proof of insurance on you is the same as not having it at all. It says it doesn't apply to guests. Wouldn't anyone that you give permission to hunt your land be a "guest?" That's the impression I got from BhamFred.
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest." If I tell hard head strutter he can go deer hunting on my property and GW sees his truck and goes to check the hunter , he may write hard head strutter for all violations including hunting without. On court day I show and tell judge I gave hard head strutter permission to hunt, I expect him not to be prosecuted for it, but please throw the book at him for everything else. I bet $ that's exactly what happens. Some of you seem to miss the point of written permission. The law isn't that you must have permission, but it is that you must have written permission on you. Same as Alabama's Mandatory Insurance law. That law is very clear that not having proof of insurance on you is the same as not having it at all. It would seem to me that "guest" would imply they were hunting with me. Me being the landowner.. What the hell do I know, I didn't know you had to register does until last night.
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My understanding is that if the landowner is also hunting across the holler from you then you wouldn't have to have written permission
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Your gonna start a slices crisis.
"Hate is an acid that does more damage to the vessel in which it is stored, than the victim on which it is poured."
"Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity."
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest." If I tell hard head strutter he can go deer hunting on my property and GW sees his truck and goes to check the hunter , he may write hard head strutter for all violations including hunting without. On court day I show and tell judge I gave hard head strutter permission to hunt, I expect him not to be prosecuted for it, but please throw the book at him for everything else. I bet $ that's exactly what happens. Some of you seem to miss the point of written permission. The law isn't that you must have permission, but it is that you must have written permission on you. Same as Alabama's Mandatory Insurance law. That law is very clear that not having proof of insurance on you is the same as not having it at all. I disagree , sure GWs can walk through the woods writing left and right for hunting without, but court day they get thrown out when landowner shows up raising hell that they wrote his BIL or boss. I've been with one of ours in Jackson and seen him check for everything he could but never asked to see a written permit.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest." If I tell hard head strutter he can go deer hunting on my property and GW sees his truck and goes to check the hunter , he may write hard head strutter for all violations including hunting without. On court day I show and tell judge I gave hard head strutter permission to hunt, I expect him not to be prosecuted for it, but please throw the book at him for everything else. I bet $ that's exactly what happens. Some of you seem to miss the point of written permission. The law isn't that you must have permission, but it is that you must have written permission on you. Same as Alabama's Mandatory Insurance law. That law is very clear that not having proof of insurance on you is the same as not having it at all. It says it doesn't apply to guests. Wouldn't anyone that you give permission to hunt your land be a "guest?" That's the impression I got from BhamFred. YES
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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the harder, but more professional way to handle someone who says they have permission, but no permit, is to take their information and check with the landowner. I did this a lot. No permission, get a warrant and go arrest them.
Mine prolly ran about 50/50 on having permission.
I'm not sure if the intent of the law was for the landowner to be on the property but it DID NOT say that in the law. I don't guess intents of idiots in the Legislature.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest." If I tell hard head strutter he can go deer hunting on my property and GW sees his truck and goes to check the hunter , he may write hard head strutter for all violations including hunting without. On court day I show and tell judge I gave hard head strutter permission to hunt, I expect him not to be prosecuted for it, but please throw the book at him for everything else. I bet $ that's exactly what happens. Some of you seem to miss the point of written permission. The law isn't that you must have permission, but it is that you must have written permission on you. Same as Alabama's Mandatory Insurance law. That law is very clear that not having proof of insurance on you is the same as not having it at all. I disagree , sure GWs can walk through the woods writing left and right for hunting without, but court day they get thrown out when landowner shows up raising hell that they wrote his BIL or boss. I've been with one of ours in Jackson and seen him check for everything he could but never asked to see a written permit. It is your privilege to disagree, but you'd be wrong. it is clear that you must have written permission from the owner unless you are the owner's guest and are accompanied by the owner. The reason most GW probably don't enforce it is the same reason PD officers don't enforce the insurance law and not having a DL in Possession law. They go through the trouble of writing a ticket only to have the person go back to the owner and get written permission to take to court. Judges generally throw those out just like if you go to court and prove that you actually had insurance but just didn't have your proof, or you just left your DL at home that day, they generally dismiss those. In my jurisdiction, they do, but they make you pay the court cost to dismiss it, so in the end you don't get off scott free.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Found it under Section 9-11-241
Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Any person who hunts, traps, captures, injures, kills, or destroys, or attempts to hunt, trap, capture, injure, kill, or destroy any wild game on the lands of another between the hours of daylight and sunset without the written permission of or accompanied by the landowner or person in possession or control of the lands shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and at the discretion of the court may have all hunting license privileges revoked for up to one year from the date of conviction. Any person shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and the revocation of all hunting license privileges for one year from the date of conviction, and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for a period not less than 10 nor more than 30 days.
This section shall not apply to the members of the family, guests, servants, or agents of the landowner. That section defines poaching lol. Anyone who has been told by the landowner that they can hunt there is considered a "guest." If I tell Hard Head Strutter he can go deer hunting on my property and GW sees his truck and goes to check the hunter , he may write Hard Head Strutter for all violations including hunting without. Now I have not asked GW to enforce the written permission law on my property, he just sees a hunter to check. On court day I show and tell judge I gave Hard Head Strutter permission to hunt, I expect him not to be prosecuted for it, but please throw the book at him for everything else. I bet $ that's exactly what happens. So can I coming hunting? How much land you got? Is in the black belt? Any river frontage, row crops, swamps or bass lakes. Thanks buddy !!!!
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