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Did he have a license at all? The harvest record is on your paper license so unless he had a lifetime license or was over 64 he needed a license to hunt public land right?
The law says nothing about a pen but the booklet says you need to carry one. The law is the one that counts.
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Negative, as long as you have one, you are good, unless the harvest record doesn't match the game check submission. Remember the harvest record is for bucks and gobblers. If you don't kill bucks and gobblers, then you have a piece of paper that you printed out, kind of like a hunting license? I don't carry a paper copy with me. Then you will get a ticket! It's pretty simple. If you don't have a hunting license with you, you will get a ticket. If you are stopped in a vehicle without a valid drivers license, what will happen? Terrible comparison you have going on
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I wonder if it had to do with him carrying a rifle during deer season on public land or something like that. Maybe the officer thought he had grounds to assume he was hunting deer since he admitted he toted a rifle during deer season and engaged in hunting of some sort.
Not that I agree with it. can't arrest a person legally for an assumption...ya know where that leads Remember that old feller up in Jackson County that was walking with some kid and had a 30-30? The guy that the GW was gonna ticket for hunting out of season or whatever just because he was walking with a 30-30? And he disarmed the GW and handcuffed him to his truck.....remember this? And yes, I know the guy turned out to be a killer and I believe a body was found on his land, BUT, he was gonna be charged with a game violation just because he was walking with a centerfire rifle if I remember correctly. And if that's accurate I might have done what he did with that GW.
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http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Mandatory-Game-Check2.pdfBefore You Go Hunting: You must obtain a hunting license and a Harvest Record. If you are exempt from needing a license or have a lifetime hunting license, you still need a Harvest Record. You can get a Harvest Record online at www.outdooralabama.com or from the Alabama Hunting and Fishing Digest. Possession of a smartphone with the Outdoor Alabama app will be accepted in lieu of a paper Harvest Record. During Your Hunt: You must always carry your Harvest Record, your hunting license and a pen or pencil while hunting. You must fill out the Harvest Record with the date and type of animal taken BEFORE moving the animal. This includes all deer and turkeys. Pretty much sums it up. So, to prevent a situation in where you have no cell service (as the majority of the black belt does not), just print out a damn piece of paper. Or, take a chance that where you drop that huge buck, you either hope you have cell service, have a piece of paper or you break the law. Prevention!
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Might as well grab his ankles and eat the $400 instead of paying that plus attorney's fees. Attorney's fees? Geez you don't need an attorney for a game violation. Just take a copy of the regulations with you and tell the judge what happened. Go fight a case against a state GW. They fight tooth and nail to get that cheese. Been there, done that, he didn't fight real hard.
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See above in regards to cell service of your mobile device and not moving the animal without filling out a harvest record. It may would help if you knew the regulations. You enter your harvest into the app, the app records it. If you aren't in cell service, it uploads it when you get into cell service. Perfectly legal and acceptable per the regulations. http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Mandatory-Game-Check2.pdfBefore You Go Hunting: You must obtain a hunting license and a Harvest Record. If you are exempt from needing a license or have a lifetime hunting license, you still need a Harvest Record. You can get a Harvest Record online at www.outdooralabama.com or from the Alabama Hunting and Fishing Digest. Possession of a smartphone with the Outdoor Alabama app will be accepted in lieu of a paper Harvest Record. During Your Hunt: You must always carry your Harvest Record, your hunting license and a pen or pencil while hunting. You must fill out the Harvest Record with the date and type of animal taken BEFORE moving the animal. This includes all deer and turkeys. Pretty much sums it up. So, to prevent a situation in where you have no cell service (as the majority of the black belt does not), just print out a damn piece of paper. Or, take a chance that where you drop that huge buck, you either hope you have cell service, have a piece of paper or you break the law. Prevention! You didn't read what I wrote, did you?
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http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Mandatory-Game-Check2.pdfBefore You Go Hunting: You must obtain a hunting license and a Harvest Record. If you are exempt from needing a license or have a lifetime hunting license, you still need a Harvest Record. You can get a Harvest Record online at www.outdooralabama.com or from the Alabama Hunting and Fishing Digest. Possession of a smartphone with the Outdoor Alabama app will be accepted in lieu of a paper Harvest Record. During Your Hunt: You must always carry your Harvest Record, your hunting license and a pen or pencil while hunting. You must fill out the Harvest Record with the date and type of animal taken BEFORE moving the animal. This includes all deer and turkeys. Pretty much sums it up. So, to prevent a situation in where you have no cell service (as the majority of the black belt does not), just print out a damn piece of paper. Or, take a chance that where you drop that huge buck, you either hope you have cell service, have a piece of paper or you break the law. Prevention! Just take 15 min to look up what peice of paper you need, get some printer paper, make sure the printer has ink, and print it out! All you gotta do is slip an 8x10" piece o paper into your wallet, keep a pen on you, and make sure it doesnt get wet or anything. And if you dont, somebody's gettin paid.
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Just trying to save you guys from a situation. Call call your local game Gamewarden. I asked both of mine the same question when they came to dinner 2 weeks ago along with trying to get a permit to shoot hogs at night in January. Bamafred knows the folks that I hunt with. He can assure you that they do not take uncalculated risks. So you are saying that two GWs told you that even with the DCNR Pocket Ranger app for the smartphone that you still have to carry a paper "harvest" record with you? Because that completely contradicts what DCNR has publicly published and announced for months. You have to have a harvest record in your possession. If you do not have cell service so you can go to the app, then how do you have possession? Maybe say, Mr GW., if we can ride up the road 2 miles, I can show you my harvest record? Maybe you have a cool GW and he says sure. But why not just put a piece of paper in your pocket to avoid taking a chance?
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Just trying to save you guys from a situation. Call call your local game Gamewarden. I asked both of mine the same question when they came to dinner 2 weeks ago along with trying to get a permit to shoot hogs at night in January. Bamafred knows the folks that I hunt with. He can assure you that they do not take uncalculated risks. So you are saying that two GWs told you that even with the DCNR Pocket Ranger app for the smartphone that you still have to carry a paper "harvest" record with you? Because that completely contradicts what DCNR has publicly published and announced for months. You have to have a harvest record in your possession. If you do not have cell service so you can go to the app, then how do you have possession? Maybe say, Mr GW., if we can ride up the road 2 miles, I can show you my harvest record? Maybe you have a cool GW and he says sure. But why not just put a piece of paper in your pocket to avoid taking a chance? Once again, read what I said. The app doesn't need the internet to record your harvest.
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Strutter, you only have to have the app. The app works rather it's on or offline. It clearly states that having the app works in place of the paper harvest record. It's not even open for interpretation, it's plastered all over the DCNR website. It also states that the app is acceptable to show proof of hunting and fishing license.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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How do i download the app on SouthernLinc?
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See above in regards to cell service of your mobile device and not moving the animal without filling out a harvest record. It may would help if you knew the regulations. You enter your harvest into the app, the app records it. If you aren't in cell service, it uploads it when you get into cell service. Perfectly legal and acceptable per the regulations. http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Mandatory-Game-Check2.pdfBefore You Go Hunting: You must obtain a hunting license and a Harvest Record. If you are exempt from needing a license or have a lifetime hunting license, you still need a Harvest Record. You can get a Harvest Record online at www.outdooralabama.com or from the Alabama Hunting and Fishing Digest. Possession of a smartphone with the Outdoor Alabama app will be accepted in lieu of a paper Harvest Record. During Your Hunt: You must always carry your Harvest Record, your hunting license and a pen or pencil while hunting. You must fill out the Harvest Record with the date and type of animal taken BEFORE moving the animal. This includes all deer and turkeys. Pretty much sums it up. So, to prevent a situation in where you have no cell service (as the majority of the black belt does not), just print out a damn piece of paper. Or, take a chance that where you drop that huge buck, you either hope you have cell service, have a piece of paper or you break the law. Prevention! You didn't read what I wrote, did you? You can't move the animal without a harvest record. Period. If you fill it out and drive to Walmart and it uploads, then you can come back move the animal. You must have in your "possession". Pending update is not in your possession.
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See above in regards to cell service of your mobile device and not moving the animal without filling out a harvest record. It may would help if you knew the regulations. You enter your harvest into the app, the app records it. If you aren't in cell service, it uploads it when you get into cell service. Perfectly legal and acceptable per the regulations. http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Mandatory-Game-Check2.pdfBefore You Go Hunting: You must obtain a hunting license and a Harvest Record. If you are exempt from needing a license or have a lifetime hunting license, you still need a Harvest Record. You can get a Harvest Record online at www.outdooralabama.com or from the Alabama Hunting and Fishing Digest. Possession of a smartphone with the Outdoor Alabama app will be accepted in lieu of a paper Harvest Record. During Your Hunt: You must always carry your Harvest Record, your hunting license and a pen or pencil while hunting. You must fill out the Harvest Record with the date and type of animal taken BEFORE moving the animal. This includes all deer and turkeys. Pretty much sums it up. So, to prevent a situation in where you have no cell service (as the majority of the black belt does not), just print out a damn piece of paper. Or, take a chance that where you drop that huge buck, you either hope you have cell service, have a piece of paper or you break the law. Prevention! You didn't read what I wrote, did you? You can't move the animal without a harvest record. Period. If you fill it out and drive to Walmart and it uploads, then you can come back move the animal. You must have in your "possession". Pending update is not in your possession. In my hand isn't in my possession? You are a dense feller, and I ain't talking about weight.
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He'll just don't worry about reporting it. All this mess is just too much.
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See above in regards to cell service of your mobile device and not moving the animal without filling out a harvest record. It may would help if you knew the regulations. You enter your harvest into the app, the app records it. If you aren't in cell service, it uploads it when you get into cell service. Perfectly legal and acceptable per the regulations. http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Mandatory-Game-Check2.pdfBefore You Go Hunting: You must obtain a hunting license and a Harvest Record. If you are exempt from needing a license or have a lifetime hunting license, you still need a Harvest Record. You can get a Harvest Record online at www.outdooralabama.com or from the Alabama Hunting and Fishing Digest. Possession of a smartphone with the Outdoor Alabama app will be accepted in lieu of a paper Harvest Record. During Your Hunt: You must always carry your Harvest Record, your hunting license and a pen or pencil while hunting. You must fill out the Harvest Record with the date and type of animal taken BEFORE moving the animal. This includes all deer and turkeys. Pretty much sums it up. So, to prevent a situation in where you have no cell service (as the majority of the black belt does not), just print out a damn piece of paper. Or, take a chance that where you drop that huge buck, you either hope you have cell service, have a piece of paper or you break the law. Prevention! You didn't read what I wrote, did you? You can't move the animal without a harvest record. Period. If you fill it out and drive to Walmart and it uploads, then you can come back move the animal. You must have in your "possession". Pending update is not in your possession. That is incorrect and frankly you either just want to argue or are just to damn stupid to read and comprehend.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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I dont have a printer, does the license they printed off at walmart cover all the paperwork I need?
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How do i download the app on SouthernLinc? Whack, I'm not sure that the app works with all phones so some will have to keep a paper harvest record on them. If you have an app store on your phone, simply look up Pocket Ranger or Outdoor Alabama and go from there.
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See above in regards to cell service of your mobile device and not moving the animal without filling out a harvest record. It may would help if you knew the regulations. You enter your harvest into the app, the app records it. If you aren't in cell service, it uploads it when you get into cell service. Perfectly legal and acceptable per the regulations. http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Mandatory-Game-Check2.pdfBefore You Go Hunting: You must obtain a hunting license and a Harvest Record. If you are exempt from needing a license or have a lifetime hunting license, you still need a Harvest Record. You can get a Harvest Record online at www.outdooralabama.com or from the Alabama Hunting and Fishing Digest. Possession of a smartphone with the Outdoor Alabama app will be accepted in lieu of a paper Harvest Record. During Your Hunt: You must always carry your Harvest Record, your hunting license and a pen or pencil while hunting. You must fill out the Harvest Record with the date and type of animal taken BEFORE moving the animal. This includes all deer and turkeys. Pretty much sums it up. So, to prevent a situation in where you have no cell service (as the majority of the black belt does not), just print out a damn piece of paper. Or, take a chance that where you drop that huge buck, you either hope you have cell service, have a piece of paper or you break the law. Prevention! You didn't read what I wrote, did you? You can't move the animal without a harvest record. Period. If you fill it out and drive to Walmart and it uploads, then you can come back move the animal. You must have in your "possession". Pending update is not in your possession. That is incorrect and frankly you either just want to argue or are just to damn stupid to read and comprehend. Please quote regs for those of us who thought otherwise. I was operating under the understanding that it could not be moved until the paper copy was filled out.
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Strutter, can you please inform me as to the difference in having a paper copy filled out, and a digital copy filled out? The paper copy doesn't have Internet service, so why does the digital have to?
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"Possession of a smartphone with the Outdoor Alabama app will be accepted in lieu of a paper Harvest Record." http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Mandatory-Game-Check2.pdf
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