Well crimson, i'm headed to the club this afternoon to spray, and i've decided to try the new method, spray throw and walk away. I'm going to spray today and come back this weekend and throw my seed. I normally would drag the thatch down, but i think it will grow better with the thatch standing, but still shading the soil. It should keep the deer from hammering it too soon as well. We'll see. I've found that after i spray and wait 10-14 days, the grass is already pressed down in a mat. The seed still makes it to the soil, but it makes it hard for the plant to push up thru the mat sometimes.