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loprofile.......For a fall/winter plot, cereal rye will sprout just as easy as that millet just did. Makes planting fall plots a breeze.
turkey neck.....Did you get much rain? It looked like it was barely hitting you up there when it all came through.
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I got probably 3/4-1 wed some more that night then that big storm Friday night. The areas that had better thatch had better germination but I'm happy so far. My milo hasn't shown itself yet but the I/c and crowder peas have popped up well.
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I got probably 3/4-1 wed some more that night then that big storm Friday night. The areas that had better thatch had better germination but I'm happy so far. My milo hasn't shown itself yet but the I/c and crowder peas have popped up well. Good deal. You got a good bit then. The cowpeas are fast to jump out the ground. You should see the milo start to come in after a few more days.
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Blum..I dont think reaching the Fuyus is going to be as big of a problem as we thought. Theyre barely half grown and already pulling the limbs to the ground. This is after shedding off a lot of fruit too. I think Im going to go ahead and pull the trigger this fall and add onto this orchard with a dozen of them. Ive got another young Giro right next to this one that you cant see thats putting on some fruit this year. So far I dont see much difference in them. Wow, that fuyo really took off. Mine ar still dwarfed. To me they have barely grown in the 2 years since i planted them. They had fruit the first year and basically nothing since.
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Mine hasnt produced much fruit for the last couple years but its put on good growth. Most of the trees seem to like this sandy loam. My mast producing trees are really on the verge on starting to drop a significant amount of food in the next couple years. The sawtooths are already there. Theres no way to get it all in one pic but theres about 150 ish trees total in this one area. It goes over the hill in the back and out of the screen to the right. That fuyu is just behind that powerline. I dont have everything The Wildlife Group sells but a good bit of it is in there. The understory is full of that native grass I was showing. Im marking good producers and bad producers. Over time some of the weaker trees will get thinned out. That water oak is in the process of checking out..intentionally. 
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Do your Jap Persimmons drop? I have several which put on tons of fruit now but it all stays on the tree.
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Do your Jap Persimmons drop? I have several which put on tons of fruit now but it all stays on the tree. No, but the fruit is so heavy that it's pulling the limbs to the ground and putting a large percentage of the fruit within the deers reach. These things are like deer crack too..theyre weirdly sweet. Some folks like to eat them but I dont care for em too much.odd taste. The deer will beat the ground to the bare dirt around the perimeter of the tree standing on their hind legs trying to reach to top ones. These aren't anywhere close to full grown yet. They'll get as big as the palm of your hand. 
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Gonna be the first year of producing any significant amount of apples. Its still nothing like the orchard should eventually produce but happy to see it coming online. I got hit by another round of either fire blight or apple cedar rust. Its not having as big of an impact on the bigger trees now. Its hell on the young ones. Ive lost several trees and had growth significantly impacted on a good percentage of the orchard due to it. Still around 35 trees left. Theyve not been the easiest thing to establish but seeing apples hanging in trees now is making it seem a lot better. 
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I eat the fuyu like an apple. Thier non-astrigent, so they never tast bitter like native persimmons. Taste good. You'll have to pull them off the tree.
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Unfortunately my trees are 25-30 feet tall so most of the fruit is not getting to the deer. When I live up there full time I will just knock a few off every afternoon cause they sure do love them.
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Unfortunately my trees are 25-30 feet tall so most of the fruit is not getting to the deer. When I live up there full time I will just knock a few off every afternoon cause they sure do love them. Hmmmm.....I may need to start doing something to mine to see if I can keep it small statured. It's around 5 years old now I believe. I may try topping it.
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Are there shade tolerant fruit trees that don't require regular pruning? I am horrible at pruning. Once I get to cutting on a tree it's more likely to end up as a 3" stump than something pruned half correctly. Put 4 Sida / teaweed seeds in each of 6 - 4" pots with potting soil and 1 each in 36 peat pods in a grow tray with a kinda terrarium lid, yesterday. Can't wait to see some emerging plantage over the next week or so. Out of the 60 seeds planted there are 12 seedlings up so far. 4 of them popped up over night. Hoping for more germination to come.
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Out of the 60 seeds planted there are 12 seedlings up so far. 4 of them popped up over night. Hoping for more germination to come.
I'm not sure what kind of effect it will have on your success but you're completely out of sync with the natural growth pattern of the plant. Mine are starting to bloom out right now. If things don't go well then that might be one culprit to consider. Just throwing it out there.
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Well been raining for bout the last hr or so and we have probably gotten a half inch or better. Them peas and milo are sure gonna love this. Just wish I had gotten fert down before this rain but wasn't really expecting it.
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Well been raining for bout the last hr or so and we have probably gotten a half inch or better. Them peas and milo are sure gonna love this. Just wish I had gotten fert down before this rain but wasn't really expecting it. I picked up a decent little shower this evening. It wasn't anything real significant but it was enough to give things a little relief. Everything looked perked up this evening right before dark. Rain chances are pretty good over the next few days.
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Out of the 60 seeds planted there are 12 seedlings up so far. 4 of them popped up over night. Hoping for more germination to come.
I'm not sure what kind of effect it will have on your success but you're completely out of sync with the natural growth pattern of the plant. Mine are starting to bloom out right now. If things don't go well then that might be one culprit to consider. Just throwing it out there. Up to 15 at end of today. Your point is valid. The information available mentions night temps in the 60's and warmer humid days. So June seemed like a good time to start in central AL. Also, the Southern Habitats people talk about slow growth during the first month or so. It looks like things are slowly progressing, variations in timing may be due to deeper or shallower seeding depths. With the coating on the seed there may need to be merely seed to ground contact with some mulching. I still have to nurse them long enough and transplant the Jiffy Potted ones into larger containers in order to get them planted. That may end up being toward the end August hopefully just before several days rain. As if that is a regular occurrence in Aug. Like the purpose of your plants this first set is primarily to establish a source of seeds. If that proves fruitful I'll probably Gly our small plot and rake in the remainder of the purchased seeds then mow down the dead weeds for mulch.
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Good deal!.......Looking forward to following the progress. Theres actually someone on the QDMA forum right now asking if anyone has ever ordered the seed and tried to get any started.
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Heres the blooms that are beginning to pop on the teaweed. The seed must be tee-tiny because the flowers arent much bigger than my pinkie nail. Its a pale yellow flower. The light is making it look a little brighter and whiter here than it actually is..thought this might help anyone with plant ID. 
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Did some throw and mow in a few of my plots last fall, here is how my white clover is holding up with the cereal grains giving it shade and keeping the weeds suppressed back. I have 4 clover fields that all look like this. Pretty pleased with the amount of moisture the fields are retaining. Until yesterday it had been 12 days since we had any rain and they are still beating the heat. I haven't sprayed or mowed any of these fields so they aren't the prettiest but they are doing what they are supposed to. 
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That's awesome!..... 
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