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I don't get how you guys come across some of your conclusions.
Not liking Trump is not an indication of supporting Hillary.
Ya'll go vote for the man. He was your choice.
I'll continue to stand by what I've said all along. He is NO different than Clinton. I will be proven right over the next 4 years. Either he will lose to Clinton as so many have tried to tell you or his policies will reflect that he wasn't a conservative at all.
Either way we are going to suffer. I will vote for him but he wasn't my choice in the primary. I find it funny that you say YOU will be proven right in the end with no leeway for you possibly just possibly being wrong. It is that train of thought that has people piling on some of the Cruz and nevertrump supporters. You may be right but wether you can actually grasp this YOU might also be wrong. I know that is hard for some people to acknowledge that they aren't the smartest person in the room but time will tell. I personally hope you are wrong for the sake of the country......... I agree with fatty. I hope he and I are wrong.
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I don't get how you guys come across some of your conclusions.
Not liking Trump is not an indication of supporting Hillary.
Ya'll go vote for the man. He was your choice.
I'll continue to stand by what I've said all along. He is NO different than Clinton. I will be proven right over the next 4 years. Either he will lose to Clinton as so many have tried to tell you or his policies will reflect that he wasn't a conservative at all.
Either way we are going to suffer. I will vote for him but he wasn't my choice in the primary. I find it funny that you say YOU will be proven right in the end with no leeway for you possibly just possibly being wrong. It is that train of thought that has people piling on some of the Cruz and nevertrump supporters. You may be right but wether you can actually grasp this YOU might also be wrong. I know that is hard for some people to acknowledge that they aren't the smartest person in the room but time will tell. I personally hope you are wrong for the sake of the country......... I agree with fatty. I hope he and I are wrong. I hope y'all are too  especially since he is the only viable alternative to Hillary.
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Have I said that you can't trump the Trump yet? Here it is again. Can't trump the Trump.
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I don't get how you guys come across some of your conclusions.
Not liking Trump is not an indication of supporting Hillary.
Ya'll go vote for the man. He was your choice.
I'll continue to stand by what I've said all along. He is NO different than Clinton. I will be proven right over the next 4 years. Either he will lose to Clinton as so many have tried to tell you or his policies will reflect that he wasn't a conservative at all.
Either way we are going to suffer. I will vote for him but he wasn't my choice in the primary. I find it funny that you say YOU will be proven right in the end with no leeway for you possibly just possibly being wrong. It is that train of thought that has people piling on some of the Cruz and nevertrump supporters. You may be right but wether you can actually grasp this YOU might also be wrong. I know that is hard for some people to acknowledge that they aren't the smartest person in the room but time will tell. I personally hope you are wrong for the sake of the country......... Idk about fatty, but I've expressed many times that I really, really hope we are wrong. I would love nothing more than trump to be a fantastic president. And if it happens I will gladly eat my crow. As for my position, I live in Alabama. A state, where my vote or lack there of, will not count. I feel so negatively about trump, that I will not be voting for him. If I lived in a swing state, or a state (like Georgia) where he was in danger of losing, I would likely go vote for him, despite my complete disapproval of the man. If trumpeters can not see the validity of what I've just laid out, well it wouldn't surprise me.
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I don't get how you guys come across some of your conclusions.
Not liking Trump is not an indication of supporting Hillary.
Ya'll go vote for the man. He was your choice.
I'll continue to stand by what I've said all along. He is NO different than Clinton. I will be proven right over the next 4 years. Either he will lose to Clinton as so many have tried to tell you or his policies will reflect that he wasn't a conservative at all.
Either way we are going to suffer. I will vote for him but he wasn't my choice in the primary. I find it funny that you say YOU will be proven right in the end with no leeway for you possibly just possibly being wrong. It is that train of thought that has people piling on some of the Cruz and nevertrump supporters. You may be right but wether you can actually grasp this YOU might also be wrong. I know that is hard for some people to acknowledge that they aren't the smartest person in the room but time will tell. I personally hope you are wrong for the sake of the country......... Idk about fatty, but I've expressed many times that I really, really hope we are wrong. I would love nothing more than trump to be a fantastic president. And if it happens I will gladly eat my crow. As for my position, I live in Alabama. A state, where my vote or lack there of, will not count. I feel so negatively about trump, that I will not be voting for him. If I lived in a swing state, or a state (like Georgia) where he was in danger of losing, I would likely go vote for him, despite my complete disapproval of the man. If trumpeters can not see the validity of what I've just laid out, well it wouldn't surprise me. I don't consider me a Trumpeter but I do understand what you are saying and I get it. The only reason I quoted Fatty is because in his statement he inferred that his opinion was a FACT. To be honest I don't think anyone really knows what Trump will do but we all know what Hillary is at least going to try to do.......I would rather our nation take a chance on Trump then definitely continue going down the toilet as Hillary has said she would be an extension of the Obama presidency......
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If only all the Cruz supporters would have just supported my choice Carson we wouldn't be in this position.......just kidding.....well mostly lol
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If only all the Cruz supporters would have just supported my choice Carson we wouldn't be in this position.......just kidding.....well mostly lol Carson was my second choice, because I believe at his core, he has the best interest of the country at heart. If he actually had a chance of winning, it would have been a tough choice between him and Cruz.
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If only all the Cruz supporters would have just supported my choice Carson we wouldn't be in this position.......just kidding.....well mostly lol Id gladly vote Carson. He's not a liberal. That's what we can't get through to some. It's not that "my guy" lost. I'd vote for several of the other republicans that were running. But voting in a known liberal is different. I'll be tuned in to watch him and the devil debate. It should be interesting.
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If only all the Cruz supporters would have just supported my choice Carson we wouldn't be in this position.......just kidding.....well mostly lol Id gladly vote Carson. He's not a liberal. That's what we can't get through to some. It's not that "my guy" lost. I'd vote for several of the other republicans that were running. But voting in a known liberal is different. I'll be tuned in to watch him and the devil debate. It should be interesting. This is correct It will be like watching the male and female version of the same person argue with himself or herself
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LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
- - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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If he gets rid of the illegals, and gets the economy going again and leaves my damn guns alone, I'll be happy.
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Carson didn't have a chance, he's a smart guy. But you gotta be more than that to make it in that business, politics is a cut throat business, and I don't think he rolled like that. He let creepy Ted big boy him,lol
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I sincerely pray I am wrong and will be the first to admit if so. Based on what I've read and.seen, I am confident I am right and even more so that Trump supporters will make excuses for him until the bitter end and further.
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Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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I have a serious question to all those opposed to voting for Trump based on your God based principles: Do you believe in your heart that God will hold that against you in the end when the female version of Satan is the other choice?
Like I said this is a serious question. Just trying to understand. The question is, do we believe God thinks there is a right or wrong thing to do. Any believer that ask that question knows that the answer is absolutely, yes. God is not ambivalent and there is little doubt He expects his His people to do the right thing and leave the results to Him. What's the right thing? Honestly, I have to admit that I can't say for sure, yet. Up to this point I've relied on my personal feelings when I should be praying about the decision. That's what every one of us who are believers should be doing. Pray about what God would have us do and trust that He is powerful enough to handle the situation. The realisation is that we shouldn't be looking to any man to save us and if we are tthen we haven't set our eyes high enough. We should also acknowledge that no matter who wins, God can accomplish His purpose,, regardless. We've all been relying on our own understanding to make this decision and although I know what God says about leadership I haven't really put my decision in His hands. I have a belief that I know what He wants believers to do but I need to pray that He will reveal it clearly to me and that he gives me the faith to do the right thing without fear and with the belief that He can handle it no matter what happens.
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I have a serious question to all those opposed to voting for Trump based on your God based principles: Do you believe in your heart that God will hold that against you in the end when the female version of Satan is the other choice?
Like I said this is a serious question. Just trying to understand. The question is, do we believe God thinks there is a right or wrong thing to do. Any believer that ask that question knows that the answer is absolutely, yes. God is not ambivalent and there is little doubt He expects his His people to do the right thing and leave the results to Him. What's the right thing? Honestly, I have to admit that I can't say for sure, yet. Up to this point I've relied on my personal feelings when I should be praying about the decision. That's what every one of us who are believers should be doing. Pray about what God would have us do and trust that He is powerful enough to handle the situation. The realisation is that we shouldn't be looking to any man to save us and if we are tthen we haven't set our eyes high enough. We should also acknowledge that no matter who wins, God can accomplish His purpose,, regardless. We've all been relying on our own understanding to make this decision and although I know what God says about leadership I haven't really put my decision in His hands. I have a belief that I know what He wants believers to do but I need to pray that He will reveal it clearly to me and that he gives me the faith to do the right thing without fear and with the belief that He can handle it no matter what happens. I don't waste God's time with our politicians. That gives them legitimacy and power, neither things which they have earned or deserve.
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I look at voting like picking a doctor for my surgery. Sure, my life is ultimately in God's hands, but that doesn't mean I don't want to pick the best surgeon I can find to cut on me.
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If he gets rid of the illegals, and gets the economy going again and leaves my damn guns alone, I'll be happy.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Trump won't get "rid of the illegals" and y'all need to get over that. Neither one president nor Congress is going to deport 15+ million Hispanics, along with all the other illegal Cubans, Europeans, Asians and Canadians who are in the country.
Is not going to happen. This idea of "getting rid of the illegals" or building a wall -- won't happen, either -- or "sending them all back" absolutely will not happen. It won't. It didn't happen when Ronald Reagan, the great savior who broke laws with the Iran-Contra Scandal and no one cared, signed off on the amnesty act in 1986.
Can more be done to stem the inflow? Sure. That's what needs to be done, along with emphasizing either becoming a citizen through the existing path or leaving when the visa is up (or deportation if caught, criminal, etc.). But any thought of "Trump will round 'em all up and ship 'em all back!" is wholly idiotic.
He, like any politician, is only saying the things to get elected. He did it masterfully in the primaries. He'll scale back and be "more presidential" until November. And then he'll go moderate to do whatever needs to be done ... just like any other president.
Damned Canadians, bringing their curds and weed here. Harrumph.
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He has now tweeted that he will name Trey Gowdy as Attourney General
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