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But if it produces the birds, then what's the difference? Given you have turkey hunted a good bit and experienced some good hunts with called up, gobbling turkeys....I can't even believe you would ask such a thing! JUG, it's like this; FOR ME, the thrill & excitement of turkey hunting is stepping off into the woods (or a pasture), engaging a bird, having him gobble & respond to my calling, and killing him by out-smarting him. No doubt about it whatsoever. That cranks my tractor big-time! And, that's what I do & that's how I hunt & that's how I killed 2 nice birds this year (thank the Lord above!). BUT ... if another fella has a different tactic than me, welp, that's his deal... It's not for me, and I don't do it, but if it gets that guy the results & he considers it a great turkey hunt, and he feeds his family w/turkey nuggets that night, well... Maybe his story ain't that great & his ego isn't as stroked as ours, but ... He killed the gobbler & he's got the pics... Those folks on here that blanked this year would love to be either one of these types of turkey hunters right about now, I would imagine... To me it would be like using dynamite and a dip net to get a limit of fish and call it fishing.
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...all the way to his blind, gets in it, sits there until 800am and hopes a gobbler walks into the plot. He is not a turkey hunter. Turkey hunters pay for their gobblers in mud and blood, sweat and tears. Now if y'all want to deer hunt them, go right ahead but it's not the same.
Hoping is a marginal tactic. I agree with you about this guy; he's not doing what a successful turkey hunter does; I can't find hope in my turkey pouch.
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For some it is just a numbers game; for some it matters how you get to the numbers. That is the main differentiator in my mind. I will sit in a blind with my son if it is raining, but that is about it just because we don't get many chances to go, so we go when we can and I hate drying out all of my gear.
I ain't a fan of crawling on'em, fanning them, or some of the other fads folks use to kill turkeys these days. Does it work, yeah ... a lot of people kill a lot of turkeys those ways; does it take skill (I guess?), is it "true" turkey hunting ...
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...all the way to his blind, gets in it, sits there until 800am and hopes a gobbler walks into the plot. He is not a turkey hunter. Turkey hunters pay for their gobblers in mud and blood, sweat and tears. Now if y'all want to deer hunt them, go right ahead but it's not the same.
Hoping is a marginal tactic. I agree with you about this guy; he's not doing what a successful turkey hunter does; I can't find hope in my turkey pouch. I'll just throw this out there. A good turkey hunter, is not determined by how long he has been hunting a piece of land or how many hours he has spent scouting. If you're kills depend on either of those things, then they aren't skills, because they don't work on the property two miles down the road.
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...all the way to his blind, gets in it, sits there until 800am and hopes a gobbler walks into the plot. He is not a turkey hunter. Turkey hunters pay for their gobblers in mud and blood, sweat and tears. Now if y'all want to deer hunt them, go right ahead but it's not the same.
Hoping is a marginal tactic. I agree with you about this guy; he's not doing what a successful turkey hunter does; I can't find hope in my turkey pouch. Your just argumentative and playing semantics. The place is a known field that gobblers are killed in and around. He is "waiting" on the turkey to walk out. When you go hunting do you not HOPE a turkey gobbles? When you set up do you HOPE the turkey fly's down your way?
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...all the way to his blind, gets in it, sits there until 800am and hopes a gobbler walks into the plot. He is not a turkey hunter. Turkey hunters pay for their gobblers in mud and blood, sweat and tears. Now if y'all want to deer hunt them, go right ahead but it's not the same.
Hoping is a marginal tactic. I agree with you about this guy; he's not doing what a successful turkey hunter does; I can't find hope in my turkey pouch. Your just argumentative and playing semantics. The place is a known field that gobblers are killed in and around. He is "waiting" on the turkey to walk out. When you go hunting do you not HOPE a turkey gobbles? When you set up do you HOPE the turkey fly's down your way? OH! Look, I'm not trying to be argumentative with you; I assumed from your first post, the way you had it written, that the guy was just going to some random field & just sitting there & hoping a gobbler would eventually walk by... You didn't say it was a field that was a "known field that gobblers are killed in"...
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I think we all see your point.
The question is, what skill does it take to spend a few afternoons watching turkeys and then sit in a blind over their travel route. 0. Will you kill turkeys? Sure. If that's your thing and you feel accomplished knock it out. If I had to hunt turkeys that way I would just quit because that isn't fun to me. Agree 100% with your last statement, 3toe. The skill employed was observation & scouting, which is a hallmark skill in any hunter, for any game. I guess we can agree to disagree. Seeing a bunch of turkeys in a field and then throwing a blind up is not a skill of any sort. Well, if you can figure out how to fold up one of those dad gum blinds and get it back in the carry bag that's a skill I guess.
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...all the way to his blind, gets in it, sits there until 800am and hopes a gobbler walks into the plot. He is not a turkey hunter. Turkey hunters pay for their gobblers in mud and blood, sweat and tears. Now if y'all want to deer hunt them, go right ahead but it's not the same.
Hoping is a marginal tactic. I agree with you about this guy; he's not doing what a successful turkey hunter does; I can't find hope in my turkey pouch. I'll just throw this out there. A good turkey hunter, is not determined by how long he has been hunting a piece of land or how many hours he has spent scouting. If you're kills depend on either of those things, then they aren't skills, because they don't work on the property two miles down the road. Scouting and learning a new piece of hunting land is not a skill?! Well damn. The methods and tactics learned on tract A can shape the tactics on tract B and may work exactly the same.
"Why do you ask"?
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I think we all see your point.
The question is, what skill does it take to spend a few afternoons watching turkeys and then sit in a blind over their travel route. 0. Will you kill turkeys? Sure. If that's your thing and you feel accomplished knock it out. If I had to hunt turkeys that way I would just quit because that isn't fun to me. Agree 100% with your last statement, 3toe. The skill employed was observation & scouting, which is a hallmark skill in any hunter, for any game. I guess we can agree to disagree. Seeing a bunch of turkeys in a field and then throwing a blind up is not a skill of any sort. Well, if you can figure out how to fold up one of those dad gum blinds and get it back in the carry bag that's a skill I guess. Bam! and Bam! It does take skill to get a blind back in the tote. 
"Why do you ask"?
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I can pee over a 4 rail fence. Ready..... go!
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What if you do almost every one of those to a perfect "T" and still don't kill turkeys? What does that make you? A TURKEY HUNTER....Lord knows every time I think I have screwed up every possible way I learn a new way to screw up a turkey hunt.
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What if you do almost every one of those to a perfect "T" and still don't kill turkeys? What does that make you? A TURKEY HUNTER....Lord knows every time I think I have screwed up every possible way I learn a new way to screw up a turkey hunt. Amen, brother!!
"For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America" ~Benjamin Franklin
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...all the way to his blind, gets in it, sits there until 800am and hopes a gobbler walks into the plot. He is not a turkey hunter. Turkey hunters pay for their gobblers in mud and blood, sweat and tears. Now if y'all want to deer hunt them, go right ahead but it's not the same.
Hoping is a marginal tactic. I agree with you about this guy; he's not doing what a successful turkey hunter does; I can't find hope in my turkey pouch. I'll just throw this out there. A good turkey hunter, is not determined by how long he has been hunting a piece of land or how many hours he has spent scouting. If you're kills depend on either of those things, then they aren't skills, because they don't work on the property two miles down the road. Scouting and learning a new piece of hunting land is not a skill?! Well damn. The methods and tactics learned on tract A can shape the tactics on tract B and may work exactly the same. When discussing turkey hunting, not really.
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Them tents are hard to get back in the sack. I don't think I've ever been able to get one back in.
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...all the way to his blind, gets in it, sits there until 800am and hopes a gobbler walks into the plot. He is not a turkey hunter. Turkey hunters pay for their gobblers in mud and blood, sweat and tears. Now if y'all want to deer hunt them, go right ahead but it's not the same.
Hoping is a marginal tactic. I agree with you about this guy; he's not doing what a successful turkey hunter does; I can't find hope in my turkey pouch. I'll just throw this out there. A good turkey hunter, is not determined by how long he has been hunting a piece of land or how many hours he has spent scouting. If you're kills depend on either of those things, then they aren't skills, because they don't work on the property two miles down the road. Scouting and learning a new piece of hunting land is not a skill?! Well damn. The methods and tactics learned on tract A can shape the tactics on tract B and may work exactly the same. When discussing turkey hunting, not really. May not be in LA flat land , however set up and knowing where a tom will come to is a, if not the, major factor in killing them in the mountains. Takes some skill to learn , recognize and utilize what will work. That skill is fully transferable to a new , similar property. Perhaps I'm thinking like a old deer hunter. I guess I better change my way of thinking so I can kill some turkeys. 
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I hate decoys and don't like blinds, well, unless its raining. But I don't make the grade. Everyone knows I will shoot one if he flies down in gun range before I can call.  The way I see it, the turkey has to follow the rules too. If he does something stupid, he's gotta pay. Giving one a free pass if I'm playing fair and he does something dumb is demeaning to the turkey. I don't wanta disrespect him; that can bring on a jinx.
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I have to agree with 2dogs,when you learn how to set up on birds in the mountains,You can apply those same rules on any mountain that you hunt,but when hunting a new property,if you don't know the land; there may be some obstacles to keep a bird from coming to your set up. Knowing the land is very important,so when I hunt a new property,I scout the land,and then I go in ,and hunt the turkey!
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So I guess the true good seasoned turkey hunters are mtn hunters then? Well I guess I'm no good for killing them on flatland. Oh well. Maybe one day I can be a good turkey hunter 
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So I guess the true good seasoned turkey hunters are mtn hunters then? Well I guess I'm no good for killing them on flatland. Oh well. Maybe one day I can be a good turkey hunter All this time, I thought a good hunter did whatever it took to kill his quarry. Guess I was wrong.
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so sniping em at 200 yards with a 243 is ok????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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