the problem shooters is that you are smack talking without any real experience to bank it on....

ANY half decent pair of binocs will outdo the best scope made and any half decent scope will KILL that same deer. Real life experiences count for way more than theoretical horsepucky.

I have used Kahles and Zeiss binocs for years and they will out do ANY rifle scope made for identifying a low light target. Are you saying YOU use yer rifle scope to ID targets and not a binocular????? Or did you fergit this lil real world thingy in yer zeal to smack talk the greatness of high end scopes???

I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one