Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: metalmuncher
Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: metalmuncher
Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: metalmuncher
If a man told you he was going to shoot his wife, would you go ahead and sell him gun he is trying to buy from you? If a Drunk man left his truck running and stumbled into your store, would you sell him a bottle of Bourbon? Would you help your buddy cheat on his wife? Would you pick up a $100 bill and stick it in your pocket if you saw someone else drop it?



Ever heard the term "apples to oranges"? Truly horrible analogies

Why in the hell would I do any of those things that directly hurt someone? You would be a bad person if you do those things.

Are you saying that a florist or a baker who sells something to gay people is a bad person? Equal to those?


Apples to oranges? Nope. I believe the problem is that you don't know an apple when you see one.

Why use such extreme examples? Because some people don't understand subtle examples. You know, it's a little bit like when Jesus talked in parables. And no, I'm not comparing myself or anything about me, to Jesus. Those who sought understanding got it. Those so wrapped up in sin and their own self importance thought the parables were utter nonsense. That is still true today.

Selling a gay cake doesn't exactly make you a Hell bound sinner, but it certainly isn't showing them the pathway to Heaven either.


Apples- contributing to murder, facilitating adultury, promoting drunk driving, stealing

Oranges- selling a wedding cake.

See, the apples all hurt someone. The oranges didn't effect me or anyone.

If I could snap my fingers and eliminate all homosexuality and effectively all of these issues, sure that would be great. But it's not possible, so I choose to not loose sleep over it. Some of you get really really worked up about things you can't change. I can't imagine having all that stress on top of all the stressful things that actually effect my everyday life, it must be miserable


See, you just proved for me, that some people just don't get it.

I am truly relieved though, that you would do away with homosexual activity.

Your wrong about who's up in arms about it. I don't recall any bakers or florists filing law suits about someone requesting a cake or bouquet. Nope, they simply refuse to condone sodomy by refusing the requested services or goods. Have you ever been turned down? If so, did you call the local tv station or file a lawsuit?

Myself? I'm just discussing my opinion about what I believe on a public forum. I don't reckon I'm gonna try to sue you for having a different opinion. I'm of twihe opinion that most of the lawsuits and many of the laws concerning gay rights and gay marriage are completely out of line with what is right, good, and just.


No I haven't ever been turned down trying to purchase goods or services, and I haven't ever called a local tv station, or filed a lawsuit.

I agree with you that all those lawsuits are out of line with what is right, good, and just. And foolish.

For the fourth, and final time, I just stated that I find it amazing that someone would get worked up enough about homosexuality to not sell them whatever service you might offer in your personal line of business.

Whether being a realtor being called by two fellas (or lesbos) wanting to buy a house, or and insurance salesman with a gay person looking to get their car insured, or any other line of business.

(With the exception of a preacher refusing to perform an actual gay service, I do see and understand that refusal. Even in that situation, it can be handled diplomatically avoiding lawsuits and news reports,... Just say you're booked that weekend. Not that hard)

I think there is a clear difference in (the way overused hypothetical) Christian florist who doesn't want to provide flowers for a gay marriage, and some guy who just hates gays and doesn't want to serve them a pizza at his restaurant. You might not see a difference in those, but I do.

Like you said, they're all just opinions

The only lawsuits I have heard about were Christians refusing to provide services I.e, cakes, flowers, or facilities for gay marriages and not randomly refusing to sell a product or all services to gays. To me that is the difference. Providing a service or products for gays for everyday normal use should not be a problem as it does not promote anything against their faith, but forcing someone to support or promote gay marriage which is against their faith wrong and discrimination against the Christians not the gays that can go somewhere else that is not owned by a person of faith.


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