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I think they make them pay taxes too

As for businesses, I think they should be free to run it as the owner sees fit. I don't think the government has any business telling them who they must or must not serve. But I do think the cake baker shouldn't really care so much. For example, half of North east Alabama, works for Honda or a supplier. I have no way to prevent gay people from using the car or the part that I contribute to it. But the gay people who buy Hondas pay part of my salary, so I don't care.

I don't agree with a lot of different lifestyles but can't possibly stop them. As a Christian, I feel my time is better spent trying to keep myself in God's will rather than trying to force others to live my way. I work with gay people and treat them like anyone else I do business with. I would be much more likely to win them to Christ by treating them like anyone else than I would if I were out protesting the fact that I have work with or do business with them.

I have coworkers that are gay. I don't despise them. I actually get along with some of them. I just don't agree with them. I don't like the fact that their agenda is constantly in my face. Like I said before if I have something (an item/object) for sale I'll sell it to them but if it promotes their agenda or what they stand for then it's a different story.

I still think what they do is wrong and biblically corrupt. If someone that was married and was having an affair and was pushing the "sharing" lifestyle on me and putting it front and center in front of my kids I'd have the same problem

I think you misread what jbc said and what I agreed with. The point I agreed with is that there isn't any need for laws and regulations requiring businesses to serve any subsection of people. Businesses should be able to serve whoever they want and the market will work itself out without government intervention.

That really worked out well with the people of color.

Difference is that their tax dollars aren't being used to retro fit female bathrooms with a urnial for me to go piss in.

I guess Geno and JBC still have yet to read the article or answer the question I posted

Refresh me on the question, a lot has been said here

Edit:

Found your link, yeah, the whole transgendered thing is totally weird. I agree that's awkward, and disgusting.

Again, I am only in this thread because I don't see how your rights are being trampled by some gay person giving you money.

The injustice doesn't seem that unbearable

That's just it though Bill. The government will protect a small minority group of homosexuals while they trampel all over the heterosexual majority. But I did understand what you meant.

Here is Washington state article

How about those women's/girls rights? Shouldn't you take up for them? What if someone tried to show your daughter his junk in a locker room if he felt like being a girl that day?

Yeah, I found it. That's pretty bad.

Weird world

But you cant separate the transgender from the gay. It's all the same. They all identify as the same group.

They are trampled when they sue you for everything you have and they take your business and your house and you have nothing left. All because you said I'd rather not make a cake with two men on top, or take your pictures, or arrange your flowers. Or refuse to make signs promoting LGBT agendas? The business down the road doesn't mind and here is the address.

All these things have happened

Or do you want your kids being indoctrinated with "inclusion training" where they are reading books at story time of two boys or two girls that love each other or are kissing. How is that right? That doesn't bother you that someone is telling your kids that crap?

I don't even think it's about protecting the rights of gay people. It's about forced acceptance. They not only want special accommodation made , they want people to like it.

The truth is that our country has lost its way and it won't be fixed with legislation , anger or hate. We are still looking to government to fix problems that originate in our sinful hearts. If we want real change we'll start worrying more about what goes on in our own house instead of spending so much time worrying about the Whitehouse. I'm speaking to myself, too.

I think I'll just sell them what I have to offer, make that money, subsequently avoiding being sued, and go on with life.

But I'm beginning to realize that's hard for some people to come to grips with

And I'll deal with teaching my daughter right from wrong along with the help of our church.

That seems all to simple also

So you sell your morals for a few bucks and that sets a good example for your children? The thought that you may be sued even playing a role in your decision is a major problem.

He brought up being sued, I have no worries about being sued because I'm a rational person

I don't think there is anything biblically wrong with me doing business with a homosexual.

Or any other sinner

If y'all do manage to make a living without interacting with any sinners, more power to you.

If a man told you he was going to shoot his wife, would you go ahead and sell him gun he is trying to buy from you? If a Drunk man left his truck running and stumbled into your store, would you sell him a bottle of Bourbon? Would you help your buddy cheat on his wife? Would you pick up a $100 bill and stick it in your pocket if you saw someone else drop it?

All of that may, or may not be legal, but regardless of legality, they would all be wrong. To do any one of those scenarios would be sinful. It's your choice though, you can do them all if you want to.

Or you can chose to not, and be a decent person, maybe even christian like. The choice to not pocket the $100 would be choosing to not sin yourself. The other three would be choosing to not help someone else in their sinful endeavors.

All it takes for sin to prevail (and for it to become the norm) is for good men to do nothing.

If I advise my buddy to not cheat on his wife, refuse to sell a drunk driver alcohol, or make it harder for someone to shoot his wife, or even Heaven forbid I should refuse to make a gay bouquet, then I am refusing to condone sin. That's all it is. It's refusing to condone sin.

That is in no way prejudiced against drinkers, gun owners or someone just because they want to have sex.

I would gladly sell someone a gun if I didn't suspect he was going to murder someone. I would gladly sell the drunk a Coka Cola. I would gladly point out to my buddy the benefits of marital sex. And I would gladly sell the gay guy some flowers for any occasion that wasn't celebrating a life of sin.

My constitution guarantees me the right to practice my religion any way I see fit as long as it doesn't step on anyone else's rights. They can be Drunk, gay, or anything else they want to be, as long as it doesn't impede other's rights. But they want more. They want us to accept their way of life by forcing us to give up our own beliefs. It's not going to happen. Well, maybe for some of you.

Great post

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Ever heard the term "apples to oranges"? Truly horrible analogies

Why in the hell would I do any of those things that directly hurt someone? You would be a bad person if you do those things.

Are you saying that a florist or a baker who sells something to gay people is a bad person? Equal to those?