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I will say that I can't believe that this thread has gone as far as it has and remained constructive. Most of the time people would be telling each other to go to hell because they disagree about what's best
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Would the hunters in this state be in favor of any changes to the current regs regarding doe harvests? If so, would "doe days" or a season limit, or both be something you would like to see? Hey, hey be careful you might cause somebody to come to blows on here. In all seriousness, keep it up. Getting good info and keeping notes. Keep stoking the fire Matt.
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I would prefer a season limit over doe days and verifiable tagging system. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This
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A number of does limit would suit me fine, but it would have to be all weapons total, example 3 for the whole season including bows, etc. Also I would like to be able to shoot my quota late in the season rather than early, thus a season total limit. I havn't shot a doe in about 4 years anyway.
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I'm Honey Lou Lou and I voted for Obama... Twice!!!
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I'm Honey Lou Lou and I voted for Obama... Twice!!!
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A number of does limit would suit me fine, but it would have to be all weapons total, example 3 for the whole season including bows, etc. Also I would like to be able to shoot my quota late in the season rather than early, thus a season total limit. I havn't shot a doe in about 4 years anyway. This  is what we need for sure.
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I would prefer a season limit over doe days and verifiable tagging system. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This X2
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In SW AL, I would prefer to see 'Doe Days", or season, that ends by Christmas. Hopefully, it would relieve some of the presure during Jan.
AND, I would like to see as much effort exerted in educating the Public on the concept of doe harvest and the reality of over-harvest as went into convincing people to shoot them to start with.
I will admit...many biologist (definitley not all!) are conceding that the antlerless harvest has went overboard and fawn recruitment has went to squat. BUT, there was a time in the not so distant past that nearly ALL of them were advoccating shooting every doe possible! The answer is somewher in the middle.
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In SW AL, I would prefer to see 'Doe Days", or season, that ends by Christmas. Hopefully, it would relieve some of the presure during Jan.
AND, I would like to see as much effort exerted in educating the Public on the concept of doe harvest and the reality of over-harvest as went into convincing people to shoot them to start with.
I will admit...many biologist (definitley not all!) are conceding that the antlerless harvest has went overboard and fawn recruitment has went to squat. BUT, there was a time in the not so distant past that nearly ALL of them were advoccating shooting every doe possible! The answer is somewher in the middle. Closed the thread. Hogwild said it all
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Would the hunters in this state be in favor of any changes to the current regs regarding doe harvests? If so, would "doe days" or a season limit, or both be something you would like to see? Hey, hey be careful you might cause somebody to come to blows on here. In all seriousness, keep it up. Getting good info and keeping notes. Keep stoking the fire Matt. I'd be 100% in favor of doe days. If we're painting the whole state with one brush, 3 per hunter, none after Jan. 1. Ideally we'd have zones, like Kentucky, and could get additional tags inside of each zone with biologist approval.
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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In SW AL, I would prefer to see 'Doe Days", or season, that ends by Christmas. Hopefully, it would relieve some of the presure during Jan.
AND, I would like to see as much effort exerted in educating the Public on the concept of doe harvest and the reality of over-harvest as went into convincing people to shoot them to start with.
I will admit...many biologist (definitley not all!) are conceding that the antlerless harvest has went overboard and fawn recruitment has went to squat. BUT, there was a time in the not so distant past that nearly ALL of them were advoccating shooting every doe possible! The answer is somewher in the middle. I didn't make it hogwilds post before I started typing. Pretty much nails it.
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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I've hunted in Cullman county my whole life and I see deer almost every time I climb so I can't agree with a decline in numbers. Not saying there's not a decline in all areas but definitely not in mine . You must hunt in a fence  I work Cullman Co. and when we try to do deer surveys we chase the same one around the whole county. Seriously, parts of Cullman are pretty lacking. Alright bucknaked, get a little more specific. I don't know anybody, other than the fence across the road, that see deer every sit. My experience is close to NH's
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For the record... I hated "Doe Days". If there were five doe days and they all occurred last week while it was 80 degrees and tornado's....
I can assure you would regret it. Much more restrictive than just establishing some type of realistic overall harvest limit.
I can remember it like it was yesterday. Hot one year, Raining the next, People couldn't take off work, etc. Wife complaining because you were hunting at Christmas instead of going to the in-laws... Not to mention everyone just going completely buck wild shooting at every white tail bouncing away through the woods and running all over the place like lunatics.
No thanks.
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NIghthunter heres some areas with little to no deer sightings this season:
-Elmore county near tallapoosa river (Kent area)
-Lowndes WMA (not just speaking for myself either, with several that hunt there, the biologist, and even the deer check-in sheet is looking super slim)
There is tons of sign on Autauga wma (just north of Posey's Crossroads) , yet to lay eyes on a deer tho. And also shows the problem with "zones". I work with a large property adjoining Lowndes WMA and they NEVER kill enough does. Nearly overpopulated. Lowndes is just overharvested. Our weights are good but down from what they used to be. We don't kill coyotes because they help control the deer. See tons of deer but the numbers of hunters are limited so each hunter must kill quite a few does (10 +) to reach the goals. For these type of properties, neither a "zone" or personal limit (say 5 per person) would fit our management. I would also argue against making them pay more to kill more does. Now if they get special treatment for having an approved management plan or something, that would be fine but then most on here would bitch about the "rich guys getting special treatment". Leave it like it is. Most of the properties I work with don't kill enough does but all are excellent habitat with good deer populations due to good management... including one in Elmore county near the Tallapoosa river!
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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For the record... I hated "Doe Days". If there were five doe days and they all occurred last week while it was 80 degrees and tornado's....
I can assure you would regret it. Much more restrictive than just establishing some type of realistic overall harvest limit.
I can remember it like it was yesterday. Hot one year, Raining the next, People couldn't take off work, etc. Wife complaining because you were hunting at Christmas instead of going to the in-laws... Not to mention everyone just going completely buck wild shooting at every white tail bouncing away through the woods and running all over the place like lunatics.
No thanks.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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Doesn't the DMP already provide those exact type plans?
Doesn't it allow for site-specific Management if desired??
Why do the complainers not utilize it?
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I don't like "doe days" statewide because of the rut timing in this state. No matter when you choose to have it during rifle season the Doe days would be right in the middle of somebody's rut. I'd hate to think the only time I had the opportunity to shoot a doe was during the rut.
Most clubs that have much sense about them will cut off the doe shooting by a certain date to let things settle down before the rut starts or shoot them in late January after the rut was over.
If the state tried to legislate the whens and wheres of how that was done it would be a complicated mess
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Would the hunters in this state be in favor of any changes to the current regs regarding doe harvests? If so, would "doe days" or a season limit, or both be something you would like to see? I actually don't know if the hunters in the State would be in favor or not. It should not be solely based on that though. The State should definitely look at Hunter satisfaction and recruitment but more importantly on the actual need due to the declining deer populations in areas across the State. As far doe limits or doe days in my opinion and knowing a lot of Alabama hunters I would go with doe days over limits just for the enforcement side, but limits would be better than nothing and possibly slowly get it across to the average deer Hunter that it is possible to do damage to the deer population and the future of deer hunting by shooting too many does combined with habitat changes and predation.....
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Cold Springs hunting club. It's at the southern tip of Cullman. It's about 3000 acres. I hate you boys don't believe me but it's hard not to see deer on every hunt and it's usually multiple deer. The plots are always ate down to nothing
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In SW AL, I would prefer to see 'Doe Days", or season, that ends by Christmas. Hopefully, it would relieve some of the presure during Jan.
AND, I would like to see as much effort exerted in educating the Public on the concept of doe harvest and the reality of over-harvest as went into convincing people to shoot them to start with.
I will admit...many biologist (definitley not all!) are conceding that the antlerless harvest has went overboard and fawn recruitment has went to squat. BUT, there was a time in the not so distant past that nearly ALL of them were advoccating shooting every doe possible! The answer is somewher in the middle. Dang Hogwild it sure makes me feel better that other SW ALabama hunters think a long the same line as I do......let's keep it up! I feel there might actually be some hope 
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NIghthunter heres some areas with little to no deer sightings this season:
-Elmore county near tallapoosa river (Kent area)
-Lowndes WMA (not just speaking for myself either, with several that hunt there, the biologist, and even the deer check-in sheet is looking super slim)
There is tons of sign on Autauga wma (just north of Posey's Crossroads) , yet to lay eyes on a deer tho. And also shows the problem with "zones". I work with a large property adjoining Lowndes WMA and they NEVER kill enough does. Nearly overpopulated. Lowndes is just overharvested. Our weights are good but down from what they used to be. We don't kill coyotes because they help control the deer. See tons of deer but the numbers of hunters are limited so each hunter must kill quite a few does (10 +) to reach the goals. For these type of properties, neither a "zone" or personal limit (say 5 per person) would fit our management. I would also argue against making them pay more to kill more does. Now if they get special treatment for having an approved management plan or something, that would be fine but then most on here would bitch about the "rich guys getting special treatment". Leave it like it is. Most of the properties I work with don't kill enough does but all are excellent habitat with good deer populations due to good management... including one in Elmore county near the Tallapoosa river! Let's see leave it like it is because you help manage land that has limited hunters on it due to their wealth and financial means......I think not! As I have stated before if a property truly has the need the State can always issue more tags to that property as they did back in the days of limited doe harvest, but to leave the whole state as is just because the wealthy have access to better land and can keep the hunters on the property today a bare minimum is just plain unacceptable to the small landowners like myself who do not control large tracts of land with virtually unlimited resources.....
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