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I shoot mechanicals... I would like to try the slick tricks, but really U would like a fix blade that is just a 2 blade. Kinda like an old arrow head...
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I shoot mechanicals... I would like to try the slick tricks, but really U would like a fix blade that is just a 2 blade. Kinda like an old arrow head... What is your reasoning for wanting fixed blades with only two blades? The cutting area would not be near as big as a 3 or 4 blade.
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I shoot mechanicals... I would like to try the slick tricks, but really U would like a fix blade that is just a 2 blade. Kinda like an old arrow head... What is your reasoning for wanting fixed blades with only two blades? The cutting area would not be near as big as a 3 or 4 blade. I believe that 3 and 4 blade heads have a greater tendency to close than a two blade cut.
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if yer talking about the cut hole thats backerds as a crawfish.
A two blade head will out penetrate any three or four blade head, everything else equal.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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I never said they wouldn't out penetrate. I said they don't have the cutting area. Two blades arent going to put as big a hole as a 3 or 4 blad. They may slice longer but the actual hole will not be as big. Yes they will out penetratearly though.
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if yer talking about the cut hole thats backerds as a crawfish.
A two blade head will out penetrate any three or four blade head, everything else equal. So you think a two blade cut has a greater chance of closing than a 3-4 blade?
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if yer talking about the cut hole thats backerds as a crawfish.
A two blade head will out penetrate any three or four blade head, everything else equal. So you think a two blade cut has a greater chance of closing than a 3-4 blade? I was talking about a two blade fixed head actually, but the science is the same a two blade head will out penetrate a three or four blade head...less drag. I have shot three blade mechanicals and fixed and found that the penetration I got was not what I wanted to see, esp with big three blade fixed heads.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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if yer talking about the cut hole thats backerds as a crawfish.
A two blade head will out penetrate any three or four blade head, everything else equal. So you think a two blade cut has a greater chance of closing than a 3-4 blade? I was talking about a two blade fixed head actually, but the science is the same a two blade head will out penetrate a three or four blade head...less drag. I have shot three blade mechanicals and fixed and found that the penetration I got was not what I wanted to see, esp with big three blade fixed heads. You may want to check the sharpness of the blades. I have yet to have a fixed head not pass through a deer and burry half the arrow in the dirt. Shot a deer this year quartered hard away. Slipped arrow in behind ribs and came out in front of deers shoulder. This what with a slick trick razor trick. Shot a 250+ lb buck in Kentucky quartered to me shot him on the inside of his shoulder and busted straight through a rib complete pass through. A three blade fixed will always out penetrate a three blade mechanical unless it is some super dull head. There are tones of penetration tests all over the internet.
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son, I don't need schooling on sharpening or checking sharpness on my broadheads. I have had really poor penetration with Magnus Snuffers, a big three blade fixed head...and sharpened very sharp. I refuse to use any three blade for anything but cockroaches... 
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Wasn't saying you needed schooling on anything. Just telling you my experience. You can shoot whatever you want to shoot makes no difference to me whatsoever. I don't need to be called son either. I have only one dad and it isn't you. son, I don't need schooling on sharpening or checking sharpness on my broadheads. I have had really poor penetration with Magnus Snuffers, a big three blade fixed head...and sharpened very sharp. I refuse to use any three blade for anything but cockroaches...
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Had a complete pass through at 20yds, went through the ribs on both sides using Muzzy Trocar (3 blade)great blood trail. Had the same result from a Rage Chisel Tip with 3 blades but not as much of a blood trail.
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I shoot a mechanical 100 grain Ulmer Edge by trophy taker. Any decent heads gonna fly like a field point at 20 yards- these do the same at 60 plus. I've killed deer,ram and pigs with them. No regrets. For fixed, I like RamCat. Also an awesome broad head.
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if yer talking about the cut hole thats backerds as a crawfish.
A two blade head will out penetrate any three or four blade head, everything else equal. So you think a two blade cut has a greater chance of closing than a 3-4 blade? I was talking about a two blade fixed head actually, but the science is the same a two blade head will out penetrate a three or four blade head...less drag. I have shot three blade mechanicals and fixed and found that the penetration I got was not what I wanted to see, esp with big three blade fixed heads. I don't disagree with you. I shoot two blade because I believe it's s greater chance at a pass through and that it will be harder for the holes to close up
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A fella named Dr Ashby has done way extensive research on broadhead performance, aimed at larger African game, but the science is the same. A well constructed two blade on a heavy shaft will penetrate best,
A target point CAN kill a deer quickly IF placed perfectly thru the brain...but I usually try to shoot a combo that will kill under any shot I'm presented, not just the perfect ones.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Closing up??? That is new to me. So some of you all actually have a wound that won't bleed because of the number of blades?
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Closing up??? That is new to me. So some of you all actually have a wound that won't bleed because of the number of blades? No I have not had it happen. But I think one 2+ inch slice horizontal, vertical, diangnal ect is better than 3 or 4 cuts.
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Closing up??? That is new to me. So some of you all actually have a wound that won't bleed because of the number of blades? No I have not had it happen. But I think one 2+ inch slice horizontal, vertical, diangnal ect is better than 3 or 4 cuts. To each his own I guess. They shoot two blade in Africa for penetration purposes. A slit will close easier than 3 or 4 slits. Just my opinion though. More cuts means more damage, more damage means more blood, more blood means dead deer quicker. Look at hole size comparison from a magnus stinger to any 4 blade fixed head. How can a hole that is bigger close up easier? Not wrapping my head around this at all.
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research has shown that penetration is the number one factor in determining the fatality of a hit.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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