i went to butler wma with dad on a dog hunt back then and was standing on a stump beside him when they cut them loose. In that drive that morning i counted 58 deer with in my sight and dad killed a nice 8 point. You talking about setting a 6 year old little boy on fire. i never carried a gun till i was 11 but i learned alot standing and hunting with him and them old men, and probably learned more about how to hunt from hunting small game than anything. Back in them days if you killed a deer at butler all you got was head hide horns hooves and one piece of tenderloin. Everybody on the hunt that day got a piece of meat. it was divided up amoung everybody there.