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Some departments allow it, but most don't. The ones that do just want their cars to be seen as much as possible, which is smart. I'm gonna bet these guys are getting to use it because it's "training related" Yep. A shooting match will qualify as training. If I were the chief though I would still say taking the family is not kosher. Too much potential for liability. This is as much what I'm talking about as anything. I'm not bashing police officers, I'm simply saying that the vehicles shouldn't be used as family transportation. Obviously there are many that feel differently than I do
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My brother had one assigned to him full time. There were certain rules (can't drive past city limits was one). Then the SWAT team asked him to pull the Command Post (Snack Shack) whenever they were called out. He got a sweet F250 to use as his daily driver.
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The older I get, the less I sweat the small things. I'm sure that there is wast in all local governments. My little home town bought new vehicles for the utilities department a couple of years ago and the police department has several new Tahoes. There are lots of government grants to be had if your city planner knows how to apply for them. True, but those grants come with catches many agencies are not willing to abide by in order to qualify. BTW, everyone seems to think the Tahoes are expensive. When we bought ours they were just a small price more than a suitable patrol car. They are bare bones compared to the regular Tahoes and are bought on a state bid. Not the luxury ride many people think. I drove one for two years and it was my last duty issued vehicle before I hung it up. Man you won't believe how you feel every little pebble you run over in those things because of the heavy duty suspension and they sit 2" lower than stock Tahoes. Also, those Federal grants are still tax dollars. I understand that but if your city doesn't get it others will! Obama made lots of grants available over the years. People were complaining when our town starting putting in new sidewalks. It was done with grants. I'm glad our town isn't letting Bessemer, Selma and other places get all the "free money". It's going to be spent in some town so I'm glad we're getting a cut.
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I think N.W.A. had some words of wisdom regarding Law Enforcement....
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
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Some need to stop sweating LEO'S balls sound like a bunch of Democrats
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The older I get, the less I sweat the small things. I'm sure that there is wast in all local governments. My little home town bought new vehicles for the utilities department a couple of years ago and the police department has several new Tahoes. There are lots of government grants to be had if your city planner knows how to apply for them. True, but those grants come with catches many agencies are not willing to abide by in order to qualify. BTW, everyone seems to think the Tahoes are expensive. When we bought ours they were just a small price more than a suitable patrol car. They are bare bones compared to the regular Tahoes and are bought on a state bid. Not the luxury ride many people think. I drove one for two years and it was my last duty issued vehicle before I hung it up. Man you won't believe how you feel every little pebble you run over in those things because of the heavy duty suspension and they sit 2" lower than stock Tahoes. Also, those Federal grants are still tax dollars. I understand that but if your city doesn't get it others will! Obama made lots of grants available over the years. People were complaining when our town starting putting in new sidewalks. It was done with grants. I'm glad our town isn't letting Bessemer, Selma and other places get all the "free money". It's going to be spent in some town so I'm glad we're getting a cut. I'd like to see that fazed out and cities to start supporting themselves and not operating beyond their means.
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Who would want to haul their family around in a patrol car? Buddy of mine refuses to drive his family in his. Front seat isn't the problem but he says he's had too many people throw up or piss themselves in the back seat of his cruiser. Not to mention just flat out nasty people.
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I'm not a big fan of the police in general - in my experience they have mostly been power hungry and overbearing. I am a law-abiding citizen and have only dealt with police when they have pulled me over a few times (driving over speed limit). I understand one may need them at some point in life but all I see is traffic cops and state troopers harassing the drivers. I would say the average citizen probably never needs the police for anything in their lifetime.
Also, our fire department does the same thing every day for lunch here in my town - in the fire engine. About 8 of them go to eat for about an hour and a half then load up in the engine and ride back to the firehouse. I think it's a waste but I mind my own business and carry on.
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Im sure all departments have different rules on it. I know friends of mine who worked for Jeffco said they encourage them to use the vehicles and be more visible in the community. But, I also know they dont allow them to abuse that either. Just ask the formerly employed officer who drove one to Mississippi. Them being able to use the vehicle some on off duty time imo is just a very small perk for a very tough and underpaid occupation. Now what does bother me is watching them text and drive. Not obeying traffic laws and using turn signals, seat belts etc, or the 80 mph+ police escorts for college football team buses. But thats another topic. 
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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I'm not a big fan of the police in general - in my experience they have mostly been power hungry and overbearing. I am a law-abiding citizen and have only dealt with police when they have pulled me over a few times (driving over speed limit). I understand one may need them at some point in life but all I see is traffic cops and state troopers harassing the drivers. I would say the average citizen probably never needs the police for anything in their lifetime.
Also, our fire department does the same thing every day for lunch here in my town - in the fire engine. About 8 of them go to eat for about an hour and a half then load up in the engine and ride back to the firehouse. I think it's a waste but I mind my own business and carry on.
Boom If you think they are overbearing and harass the general public every chance they get then try living without them. Then see who is overbearing and harassing you and your family in a lawless society. The thugs that have no regard for you or your personal property. Leroy
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LEO's are terribly underpaid and under appreciated for what they do. I think they deserve each and any perk they can get.
I also think they should be encouraged to drive their service vehicle as much as possible because I think it does deter crime and bad driving.
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I have a brother in law that works for jeff co. He drives a big F250 county is broke has hell and he gets to drive that big truck 24/7 all the way home to Jasper. I will say that once he is home he parks it.
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I'm not a big fan of the police in general - in my experience they have mostly been power hungry and overbearing. I am a law-abiding citizen and have only dealt with police when they have pulled me over a few times (driving over speed limit). I understand one may need them at some point in life but all I see is traffic cops and state troopers harassing the drivers. I would say the average citizen probably never needs the police for anything in their lifetime.
Also, our fire department does the same thing every day for lunch here in my town - in the fire engine. About 8 of them go to eat for about an hour and a half then load up in the engine and ride back to the firehouse. I think it's a waste but I mind my own business and carry on.
Boom They do that because they are on duty. Would you rather them drop their lunch, drive back to the station, get their gear/fire truck, then drive to your house if it was on fire? I have 0 problem with police driving patrol cars off duty as long as they are still in their jurisdiction and ready to respond if need be.
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I'm not a big fan of the police in general - in my experience they have mostly been power hungry and overbearing. I am a law-abiding citizen and have only dealt with police when they have pulled me over a few times (driving over speed limit). I understand one may need them at some point in life but all I see is traffic cops and state troopers harassing the drivers. I would say the average citizen probably never needs the police for anything in their lifetime.
Also, our fire department does the same thing every day for lunch here in my town - in the fire engine. About 8 of them go to eat for about an hour and a half then load up in the engine and ride back to the firehouse. I think it's a waste but I mind my own business and carry on.
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That's what you would want for the firemen to have to go back and get their truck if a fire breaks out while they are eating lunch
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I see it as a tough situation to be in, you need to compensate police officers as much as you can, but at the same time, you can't motivate people to be a police officer for the money they make. It has to be a job for someone who truly wants to protect and serve the municipality they work for. Giving them a company vehicle adds up to more compensation without putting another zero on a paycheck. I'm all for it. Plus, it's added security. Nobody knows whether they're on or off duty.
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IF I had a say so in how my tax dollars were spent, I am and would be 100% fine with police using their vehicles anytime they want. It's the least we can do as compensation.
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I'm not a big fan of the police in general - in my experience they have mostly been power hungry and overbearing. I am a law-abiding citizen and have only dealt with police when they have pulled me over a few times (driving over speed limit). I understand one may need them at some point in life but all I see is traffic cops and state troopers harassing the drivers. I would say the average citizen probably never needs the police for anything in their lifetime.
Also, our fire department does the same thing every day for lunch here in my town - in the fire engine. About 8 of them go to eat for about an hour and a half then load up in the engine and ride back to the firehouse. I think it's a waste but I mind my own business and carry on.
Boom So you think there's no need to traffic enforcement? God forbid we put someone in jail before their recklessness kills someone. Do you realize the high number of traffic fatalities? Guess what a common factor is in most of them? Someone driving like a moron. If you think traffic enforcement doesn't help I want you to come ride with me for two hours in my truck and observe traffic and then ride two hours in my patrol car and see the difference.
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I'm not a big fan of the police in general - in my experience they have mostly been power hungry and overbearing. I am a law-abiding citizen and have only dealt with police when they have pulled me over a few times (driving over speed limit). I understand one may need them at some point in life but all I see is traffic cops and state troopers harassing the drivers. I would say the average citizen probably never needs the police for anything in their lifetime.
Also, our fire department does the same thing every day for lunch here in my town - in the fire engine. About 8 of them go to eat for about an hour and a half then load up in the engine and ride back to the firehouse. I think it's a waste but I mind my own business and carry on.
Boom So you think there's no need to traffic enforcement? God forbid we put someone in jail before their recklessness kills someone. Do you realize the high number of traffic fatalities? Guess what a common factor is in most of them? Someone driving like a moron. If you think traffic enforcement doesn't help I want you to come ride with me for two hours in my truck and observe traffic and then ride two hours in my patrol car and see the difference. Pick me I want to ride! 
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I'm not a big fan of the police in general - in my experience they have mostly been power hungry and overbearing. I am a law-abiding citizen and have only dealt with police when they have pulled me over a few times (driving over speed limit). I understand one may need them at some point in life but all I see is traffic cops and state troopers harassing the drivers. I would say the average citizen probably never needs the police for anything in their lifetime.
Also, our fire department does the same thing every day for lunch here in my town - in the fire engine. About 8 of them go to eat for about an hour and a half then load up in the engine and ride back to the firehouse. I think it's a waste but I mind my own business and carry on.
Boom So you think there's no need to traffic enforcement? God forbid we put someone in jail before their recklessness kills someone. Do you realize the high number of traffic fatalities? Guess what a common factor is in most of them? Someone driving like a moron. If you think traffic enforcement doesn't help I want you to come ride with me for two hours in my truck and observe traffic and then ride two hours in my patrol car and see the difference. Drew no sense in using logic or common sense. People would be defending their homes from criminals WITHOUT police. The veneer of civilazation is VERY thin. It is kept in place by the FEAR of repercussions for criminal actions that DETERS the majority of criminal behavior. One week with no power and you see how quick the veneer actually starts to unravel. Ask the people of New Orleans during Katrina.
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