Originally Posted By: BPI
Originally Posted By: TensawRiver
Originally Posted By: 300gr
The old covenant was still in effect until his death.


That is correct

Read up on some Hebrews. It explains how Christ was the atoning sacrifice for all sins, past, present, and future. So the argument about the thief being "under the old covenant" doesn't wash. Jesus was the covenant all along. From Genesis to Exodus.

OK. If you just want to argue then how was he the sacrifice for the thief if he HAD NOT been sacrificed. He hadn't died yet to complete the sacrifice. Lets look at a sacrifice. When a lamb was laid on the alter was the sacrifice complete? No it wasn't complete until blood was shed and the lamb was dead.

Last edited by 300gr; 10/09/15 12:42 PM.

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