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In the short time I've been here, I've noticed one thing. I know I'm going to open a can of cobras with this but here goes.
A lot of you boys are having a hard time even hearing a workable bird. It sounds to me like you have tons of land but lots of preasure. Some do clubs some don't. Some post 5-9 or 10 kills. I know those guys are dedicated and travel, I'm talking home state hunters here. You have a month and half to harvest 5 birds. Ones that talk about " it's more to a hunt than a kill are the hammers or the nots out there.
Please hear me out. I know some properties are the have's some some are the have not, some travel some don't. We have 5 days to hunt with a 1 bird limit. And I roll the dice on where I'm going to hunt. Meaning. I have no less than 15 birds that I can go in on and expect to kill.
For you guys that kill your 5 birds in state. Your not starving do I know you don't need 5 in the freezer. Why do you kill every full fan that comes into range? It seams like the great hunters/ great area hunters would be very happy with finding the biggest bird in the area and hunting "him". After you put yours on the ground, why do you feel like you have to go out and shoot 4 more?
Seams to me that if most chased birds just got the hunt and not the kill there would be more birds.
Here there is no motorized vehicles allowed on WMA's. But our WMA's are small compared to the clubs "I think" you hunt. I have no clue on clubs, they don't exist here all state lands and timber contracts are open to anyone. No signin no restrictions no joy riders. And I'm covered up with birds with only a 5 day season and a 1 bird limit on state land.
Do you boys think your killing to many birds? Why am I hearing a lot of post about no birds when a lot of you have private clubs?
The "Explain to me hunting clubs will be in the deer hunting section"
I'm not being a azz, I'm just looking for people around the US that are willing to compromise between available tags and quality of turkey hunting.
For me it's all about putting the bird on the ground. I don't grab my rod just to cast it, I expect to put fish in the boat. If I don't harvest my turkey, duck, goose, deer, squirrel, what ever it may be. "I" "didnt do my job in the pre season" Every time I grab a gun I feel 200% sure that my pre season work will pay off.
Explain please??
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Many on here are really good at sand bagging too
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I guess I don't know what sand bag means.
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Saying it's tough not hearing much and their really covered up with them and killing them.
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Many on here are really good at sand bagging too Really, really good.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Les, to some turkey hunters it's about the thrill and rush of calling in a bird. How big he is don't matter. It's a unique experience on each hunt, and some people can't get enough of that. It's like an addiction. I believe the reason AL has so many hunters in this category is because we are allowed to kill more birds. More birds=more time in the woods=stone cold killers.
I know when I go hunting turkeys I could care less about killing the biggest or oldest. A strutting turkey is a strutting turkey, and provides the same thrill regardless of age or size.
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Let's put it in perspective. Your state allows hens to be killed, ours doesn't. A springtime gobbler has little to no effect on the population. The terrain and hunting pressure is so much different here I really don't believe you can even relate
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And I also think AL hunters as a whole, are spoiled slap rotten, because they have it so good.
For deer and turkey, we are among the most liberal in season lengths, bag limits, and regulations in the world.
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It seems to me like you prefer the chance to pattern a bird and kill him as soon as he hits the ground on the first day you can hunt. Then turkey season is over for you until next year.
For most of us that post on here, its a marathon that can last 6 weeks. Nearly all the turkeys are indeed pressured, and I would suspect they are miles harder to kill than the average turkey in MN. I much prefer the AL way. I get to hunt much more than you do, and turkey hunting is part of my lifestyle. It wouldn't be with a 1 bird limit. And if I do kill a turkey here, I feel like I've accomplished something.
5 turkeys don't have as much meat on them as one deer, so I don't quite follow that line of reasoning. We eat turkey a lot in my house, but of course we could come out cheaper buying it at the store. I suspect you could say that about any kind of hunting anywhere.
To each his own. It seems like the hunters in MN are happy with a heavily regulated system that gives everyone a good chance to kill one turkey. I don't think the majority of AL hunters would vote for that.
A lot of hunters are struggling this year because bad weather is leading to very little gobbling. Other years it seems like everyone is killing a bunch of turkeys. But there is no doubt in my mind that our turkeys are much more difficult to kill than those in most states, and I suspect MN falls into that group.
You do realize that killing mature gobblers after then hens are bred as no effect on the overall population? Once the hens are bred, then the spring gobbler becomes a surplus bird. This 5 bird spring limit with very limited fall hunting and full protection of hens has been in effect since the 60s, and the result is that we still have more turkeys than just about anyone. More than that, turkeys are regarded as a precious resource. In states I've hunted with low limits, I've met many that regarded them as a nuisance. The fact that a landowner knows he can hunt his turkeys gives him a lot of incentive to manage his land for turkeys, resulting in even more turkeys.
Just some random thoughts; hope I answered some of your questions. Good hunting to you!
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Les, to some turkey hunters it's about the thrill and rush of calling in a bird. How big he is don't matter. It's a unique experience on each hunt, and some people can't get enough of that. It's like an addiction. I believe the reason AL has so many hunters in this category is because we are allowed to kill more birds. More birds=more time in the woods=stone cold killers.
I know when I go hunting turkeys I could care less about killing the biggest or oldest. A strutting turkey is a strutting turkey, and provides the same thrill regardless of age or size. A great post, Matt! I was typing when you posted it. Les seems to put a great deal of importance on killing the biggest turkey in the woods. To me, a longbeard is a longbeard. Its all about the quality of the hunt, not the size of the turkey. Some of my most memorable hunts were 2 yr olds. Didn't make a bit of difference in the world.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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There is no doubt AL has some of the worst pressure on turkeys. They're hunted 45 days in most of the state with a liberal limit, and more hunters than at any time in history. They get harassed, hooted at, and called to from January through June.
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You hunt your state and I will hunt mine according to the laws and rules .
Just because some of don't hear any doesn't mean we don't have birds on the property.
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It seams like the great hunters/ great area hunters would be very happy with finding the biggest bird in the area and hunting "him". Tell me more about this. I'm all ears.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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If you insist, I will try and work MN into my schedule soon.
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By the way, Matt; when are you gonna tell us how many limits are taken statewide? They wouldn't tell you, would they?  Thanks for trying!
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Les, all you are doing is going after other hunters from different states because their states� allow them more time and more turkeys to harvest each year. Because you are not satisfied with your one turkey a year season (I would be unhappy, too), you are criticizing other hunters in other states for not killing as many turkeys as you think they should be killing.
Since you joined this site a few days ago you have been bragging about all of the scouting you do, how quickly you can kill turkeys, and the amount of turkeys you COULD kill if not for your state�s law.
I honestly can�t tell if what your posting is serious or if you are just trolling.
Either way, you are probably doing a good job at having everybody on this site NOT like you.
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I wish I were sand bagging. I have heard a gobble 6 total days of our season. been awful
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In the short time I've been here, I've noticed one thing. I know I'm going to open a can of cobras with this but here goes.
A lot of you boys are having a hard time even hearing a workable bird. It sounds to me like you have tons of land but lots of preasure. Some do clubs some don't. Some post 5-9 or 10 kills. I know those guys are dedicated and travel, I'm talking home state hunters here. You have a month and half to harvest 5 birds. Ones that talk about " it's more to a hunt than a kill are the hammers or the nots out there.
Please hear me out. I know some properties are the have's some some are the have not, some travel some don't. We have 5 days to hunt with a 1 bird limit. And I roll the dice on where I'm going to hunt. Meaning. I have no less than 15 birds that I can go in on and expect to kill.
For you guys that kill your 5 birds in state. Your not starving do I know you don't need 5 in the freezer. Why do you kill every full fan that comes into range? It seams like the great hunters/ great area hunters would be very happy with finding the biggest bird in the area and hunting "him". After you put yours on the ground, why do you feel like you have to go out and shoot 4 more?
Seams to me that if most chased birds just got the hunt and not the kill there would be more birds.
Here there is no motorized vehicles allowed on WMA's. But our WMA's are small compared to the clubs "I think" you hunt. I have no clue on clubs, they don't exist here all state lands and timber contracts are open to anyone. No signin no restrictions no joy riders. And I'm covered up with birds with only a 5 day season and a 1 bird limit on state land.
Do you boys think your killing to many birds? Why am I hearing a lot of post about no birds when a lot of you have private clubs?
The "Explain to me hunting clubs will be in the deer hunting section"
I'm not being a azz, I'm just looking for people around the US that are willing to compromise between available tags and quality of turkey hunting.
For me it's all about putting the bird on the ground. I don't grab my rod just to cast it, I expect to put fish in the boat. If I don't harvest my turkey, duck, goose, deer, squirrel, what ever it may be. "I" "didnt do my job in the pre season" Every time I grab a gun I feel 200% sure that my pre season work will pay off.
Explain please?? I dont think we can explain it to you because the way you turkey hunt is so different than what we do in the south. You think you are a great turkey hunter because you can kill an unpressured bird on opening morning right after fly down. Come on down to Alabama and I think the turkeys down here will humble you a little bit.
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I wish I were sand bagging. I have heard a gobble 6 total days of our season. been awful I know for a fact you've had a good season
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If they aren't gobbling they are strutting
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