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There is no such thing as a former homosexual. Just as there are no former black or white people. You are born just that way. You're wrong there. A person isn't born a homosexual. It is a decision. God created black ppl and white ppl by His perfect design, but he never created a human to be homosexual. So at what point did you face your decision? I personally was just attracted to women that was it. So you think gay people at some point say to themselves "I am attracted to the opposite sex, but I choose to be with the same sex instead."? That makes sense. I've never been attracted men either, but I've been attracted to other sinful things like alcohol or stealing. I had a decision to make at that point. I'm not saying that some ppl dont have a physical or psychological attraction to the same sex, but they have to make a decision to pursue that activity. Race is benign. It has no effect on one's character. That's a bogus comparison.
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There is no such thing as a former homosexual. Just as there are no former black or white people. You are born just that way. You're wrong there. A person isn't born a homosexual. It is a decision. God created black ppl and white ppl by His perfect design, but he never created a human to be homosexual. So at what point did you face your decision? I personally was just attracted to women that was it. So you think gay people at some point say to themselves "I am attracted to the opposite sex, but I choose to be with the same sex instead."? That makes sense. Love is a choice - same as hate. You cannot choose your race. However, we are not forced to make behavior acts - it is by choice we make those decisions. There is no denying that a person's DNA makeup may lend to tendencies - however, to act on those tendencies is choice.
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So you beleive that people are born gay but are supposed to just not act on it. You realize that is equivalent to you being with a man even though you don't want to. That is no way to live and exactly why gay people should be who they are and do what makes them happy. Sexuality is also benign.
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So you beleive that people are born gay but are supposed to just not act on it. You realize that is equivalent to you being with a man even though you don't want to. That is no way to live and exactly why gay people should be who they are and do what makes them happy. Sexuality is also benign.
Sure do. Just like I expect a person with a terrible temper to not go around killing ppl just because they have the urge to. Sexuality isn't benign. If it is perverted or abused, it creates emotional and psychological scars, not to mention diseases. God created sexuality as a means of procreation and a bond between a man and his wife. Anything outside of those bounds is wrong.
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So you beleive that people are born gay but are supposed to just not act on it. You realize that is equivalent to you being with a man even though you don't want to. That is no way to live and exactly why gay people should be who they are and do what makes them happy. Sexuality is also benign.
No I didn't say they were born gay. I said they chose to act on their desires. No different than people that are predisposed to certain behaviors such as being a pedophile - however, they are not pedophiles till they act. Let me go ahead and make your next statement, "So you are now saying that being gay is as bad as a pedophile." No, but since you wonder - I would argue that both are unnatural acts.
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I can't believe how someone thinks its ok to be queer, all I got to say. Nasty faggets!!!
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So you beleive that people are born gay but are supposed to just not act on it. You realize that is equivalent to you being with a man even though you don't want to. That is no way to live and exactly why gay people should be who they are and do what makes them happy. Sexuality is also benign.
Sure do. Just like I expect a person with a terrible temper to not go around killing ppl just because they have the urge to. Sexuality isn't benign. If it is perverted or abused, it creates emotional and psychological scars, not to mention diseases. God created sexuality as a means of procreation and a bond between a man and his wife. Anything outside of those bounds is wrong. The temper comparison doesn't work. That is a matter of public safety. You can't encroach on other peoples right to life.
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So you beleive that people are born gay but are supposed to just not act on it. You realize that is equivalent to you being with a man even though you don't want to. That is no way to live and exactly why gay people should be who they are and do what makes them happy. Sexuality is also benign.
No I didn't say they were born gay. I said they chose to act on their desires. No different than people that are predisposed to certain behaviors such as being a pedophile - however, they are not pedophiles till they act. Let me go ahead and make your next statement, "So you are now saying that being gay is as bad as a pedophile." No, but since you wonder - I would argue that both are unnatural acts. Pedophilia is a different conversation and I assume we all agree is wrong.
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So you beleive that people are born gay but are supposed to just not act on it. You realize that is equivalent to you being with a man even though you don't want to. That is no way to live and exactly why gay people should be who they are and do what makes them happy. Sexuality is also benign.
Sure do. Just like I expect a person with a terrible temper to not go around killing ppl just because they have the urge to. Sexuality isn't benign. If it is perverted or abused, it creates emotional and psychological scars, not to mention diseases. God created sexuality as a means of procreation and a bond between a man and his wife. Anything outside of those bounds is wrong. The temper comparison doesn't work. That is a matter of public safety. You can't encroach on other peoples right to life. What about the ministers who will be required to perform a ceremony against their will? Can someone encroach on their lives and make them compromise their beliefs?
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They shouldn't be forced to preform a ceremony. If a gay couple wants a church wedding or a minister and they find somewhere that is willing to do it, great for them, but they shouldn't be forced to. The courthouse makes you just as married.
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All of you that think it doesn't matter are in for a rude awakening. Just another slap in the face to the God-ordained family structure that will have far reaching consequences. 
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Being queer is WRONG. Period. And there ain't a damn thing gay about it. That's a deliberate misuse of a word to try to make unacceptable behavior less offensive. And THAT is wrong too. It's high damn time that we return to calling them what they are. They're QUEERS. exactly Wiley... How them girls doing Fred?
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They shouldn't be forced to preform a ceremony. If a gay couple wants a church wedding or a minister and they find somewhere that is willing to do it, great for them, but they shouldn't be forced to. The courthouse makes you just as married.
It's gonna happen.
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If so I think that will be wrong and I beleive unconstitutional under the first amendment.
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do i support the sexual practice of homosexuality? absolutely not, no more than i would support the practice of adultery, or fornication, or robbery, or thievery.
but if the government (federal, state or local) decides not only that the practice of homosexuality is legal, but that practitioners may gain formal government approval for it through "marriage," there is nothing you or i can do about it other than protest, defeat those who approved it in election, and press for a change in the law - and the Supreme Court.
and we believers in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior must remember what Jesus Himself said about government: obey the law, because those who are in charge, are in charge at His behest. this is a hard, hard teaching ...
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Pedophilia is a different conversation and I assume we all agree is wrong. You're the one that implied that people didn't just wake up one morning and decide they are gay. The question is - do you believe that people wake up one morning and decide they are going to be a pedophile? I am not trying to be argumentative, and while to a degree I would support many of your points - the choice we make and the environment in which we are raised is what makes people who they are.
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Another insightful comment from pab, thanks for your input - it really gives us all something to think about. 
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Marriage is a legal contract between two people recognized by the government. Gay people should be allowed to enter into this contract just as much as straight people. If two people love each other and treat each other well why should they not be allowed to share the legal rights that marriage provides? How does two people having a legal document and expressing their commitment to one another have any bearing on your life? marriage is NOT a legal contract between 2 people recognized by the government. Marriage IS a covenant relationship between GOD and one man and one woman. It was designed and instituted by GOD and HE is the one who should determine who can and can't be married. The Biblical concept of marriage has been around much longer than any government that supposedly recognizes it. Not just a covenant but a Blood covenant between a man and woman!
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