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Riverwood......Have you ever been to Bullock Co?

Yes I have. Why do u ask?

2-1... 2 Does for each buck...

I grew up in Marshall Co. I've been to Cullman Co many times. I've lived down here in south Alabama now for the last 15 years. The amount of deer habitat up there just doesn't compare to areas that really have prime habitat. I think Bullock Co is one of or the biggest county in the state and its nothing but tens of thousands of acres of habitat just about like what Gobbler posts pics of. Nearly every county around it is just about the same. That's way different than what exists up there. I was asking if you had ever been to Bullock Co just to make sure you had a comparison of Cullman Co versus a county with real deer habitat.

CNC have you ever been to Cullman Co?

You see what Mr. Brock would have you believe is that there are reasons why you should never expect any more out of your deer herd than what you currently have. Because if you believe it should be better and you see that it's not you might start questioning the management of the state. Well we can't have that...

FH308,

How about quit bashing Matt Brock. He has been absolutely professional in every response and has continuously provided suggestions, recommendations, and advice on what INDIVIDUALS can do to make THEIR hunting property better. You on the other hand have done nothing but complain and dish out personal attacks.
How many CAB meetings have YOU attended to present your point of view?
How many phone calls have YOU made or letters have YOU written to those in charge to offer your point of view?
Have YOU discussed any of your opinions with your adjoining land owners to try to get the folks in your area on the same page?
Can you name ANYTHING that YOU have done other than come on here to bitch and complain about "The State"?

If you don't like what he has to say, then why not just agree to disagree and move on.

You questioned above the "management of the state". I personally don't want the state "managing" anything on my property. However, I do appreciate the tool box they have provided that allows me to LEGALLY take pretty much however many deer I feel need to be taken from my property. I rarely take a doe from my personal property, even though it's legal to do so everytime I step in the woods.

My only point is that saying Cullman Co. or any county for that matter, has a certain deer population, or a certain habitat, is just making a very broad statement. Areas in South Cullman Co have habitat and deer populations that rival anywhere in Alabama. There are large contiguous landowners who cooperate and practice QDM. Thousands of acres of soybeans planted. What makes you think this is any different than anywhere else in Alabama. Only reason is that you haven't been here

BTW contrary to popular opinion, we also have blacks & Hispanics in Cullman Co

Scrub buck, I have not personally attacked anyone. I am merely challenging the ideas that have failed. My fear that is becoming real in a small way in this thread is that because no one will say "we were wrong this doesn't work" we will continue down this destructive path.

And again I will repeat a fact that does not seem popular around here.

They are not "your" deer they are "our" deer!


Thread after thread, person after person gets on this forum and says that in the last several years the population of deer they hunt has reduced to a level they are not happy with, by far an overwhelming majority of people here.

Personally I don't want to tell the "good ole days" stories to my kids about how we used to see deer when we hunted. I want to take action and leave the good ole days for them to enjoy!

Message from Cullman Co dept of tourism. Cullman is
a progressive County. Things have changed since Matt's
last visit. Now you can 1. Buy beer. 2. Date a minority. And
3. Shoot a 200+ class buck

Yeah I guess it must have been pretty hard to date a minority in Cullman when you didn't allow them to stay after dark.

Where in Cullman Co is there thousands of acres of soybeans.

Along the river. Granted some of it is done in 20 -100 ac fields but there are still 3 big farmers who do it every year. And they did make us take down that sign

So we've went from one 150'er a year to 200"ers, progressive is an under statement.

http://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Alabama/Publications/County_Estimates/AL_SOYBEANS13.pdf

6300 acres of beans in 2012. 7000 acres in 2013. They do have a very competitive yield compared to the rest of the state.

You don't hear that from NA fellers. In some areas the herd is still expanding. In others the numbers are about right per the biologists . When the state had the "citizens committee" meetings last year, I was told there were no complaints about low numbers from NA. The good ol' days are now in NA, I know I started hunting in the early 70's.

Our doe season got changed anyway, even though no biologist or hunters called for it.

200s just co$t more. You can get anything you want in Cullman now

How many landowners can you get who own 1,000+ acres in Cullman Co?

So there are 200 inch plus free ranging bucks in Cullman county?