Keep lookin. They are in there. I did some scouting Saturday and found a thick arse privet with on decent trail through it Goin into pines. Old rubs from last year all down it and one monster sawtooth oak. I will either be there Friday the 17th or in between two swamp chestnut oaks on a creek ridge. If I go into the privet I will only draw back if it's a big daddy. I can't drag them does through thick stuff. It ain't worth it.