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What and when would you plant your food plot for gun season in thick pines with minimal light? Any info will be helpful. Thanks.
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I have seen the taken out truck row of a thinned plantation planted and did OK, especially if the rows are east and west with a little more light. They were just a mixture of rye, wheat and oats. Nothing is going to thrive and some lime helps.
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Crimson clover. Plant in Sept.
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I did a wheat/clover combo last year in a small opening in pines. I used a lot of fertilizer. I've just got a small lease with a friend, we're AU students and can't afford a lot. We just rented a tiller, threw the seed and fertilizer out by hand and it worked surprisingly well. This was in Tallapoosa Co. in pretty poor soil, I think if we'd bothered to lime it it would have done a ton better.
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Ok so fertilize and lime the piss out of it plant crimson clover. What I'm trying to do is like everybody else plant it let it grow and don't bother till gun season. Also I heard somebody say plant turnips. How do y'all think that will work?
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The deer are not going to eat the turnips until after it frost a few times.
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Rye grass will grow on concrete it you water it. That would be my best bet but deer only like it when it is young and tender. Plant in October.
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Yea I'm aware of that with turnips just trying to get something established for different times thru out gun season and most importantly something that will appealing come January.
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And yes Rye grass will definitely be in there. I've planted several open field plots just no pine rows and I'm trying to gather as much info as I can. So thanks for the input so far.
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From my experience they don't seem to care for the Rye grass unless that is the only thing left.
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Yea I'm aware of that with turnips just trying to get something established for different times thru out gun season and most importantly something that will appealing come January. Every field I've got has turnips top sowed in it for the late season attractiveness.
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Go in there right now with a little hand shovel and a quart ziplock bag. Survey the area you plan on putting the plot, in about 5 areas on the planned plot, scratch off the top layer of straw, leaves, etc. then dig down about 4-6", and put a handful of dirt in the bag. Send it off to Auburn and in about a week or less you will get an email on what you need to put in the soil for what plant you tell em you are planting. It has worked for me
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I've always found that plots in pine plantations don't need nearly as much fertilizer as they do lime.
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Pines are highly acidic, so lime is in order, and lots of it. Don't waste your time on fertilizer, until you get your ph right. The plants wont take up the nutrients until the ph is right. It's like trying to get your chlorine right in your pool, when your ph aint right. After that go with cereal rye/crimson clover.
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After that go with cereal rye/crimson clover. You need to try some yuchi arrowleaf blumsden. I like it better than crimson now. I think I'm going to plant both in my mix from now on. Crimson has been gone for something like 6 weeks now I guess but I still have yuchi arrowleaf growing.
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My arrowleaf is just now playing out but I think you need both. Crimson is earlier and yuchi extends the season.
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Pines are highly acidic, so lime is in order, and lots of it. Don't waste your time on fertilizer, until you get your ph right. The plants wont take up the nutrients until the ph is right. It's like trying to get your chlorine right in your pool, when your ph aint right. After that go with cereal rye/crimson clover. Right on the money... I would definitely top sew with turnips though... I wouldn't get within 10 miles of my food plots with rye grass...
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Go in there right now with a little hand shovel and a quart ziplock bag. Survey the area you plan on putting the plot, in about 5 areas on the planned plot, scratch off the top layer of straw, leaves, etc. then dig down about 4-6", and put a handful of dirt in the bag. Send it off to Auburn and in about a week or less you will get an email on what you need to put in the soil for what plant you tell em you are planting. It has worked for me Do what he said, takes all the guess work out of it.
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I've got yucchi arrowleaf that is waist high and still green. I've got in planted in a bunch of places and the deer seem to strongly favor it over the crimsom that was planted with it.
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