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What good is a lease, if they can recant it without violations on the leasee part? Good question...I bet there are some lawyers working on that right now.
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What good is a lease, if they can recant it without violations on the leasee part? My words exactly I can't imagine the price going any higher conceidering the sorroundings. My lease in Montgomery county is $2.00 an acre less with lots more and better quality deer (no pigs). We were just looking for a place close to home to sneak in after work. None of the things mentioned in that meeting would have happened on our lease. We would have been Joy's best neighbor. As for Joy and the folks on Bailey Rd, who knows who will be their neighbor now. That being said, I'm headed to Montgomery Cty away from the computer. Later
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What good is a lease, if they can recant it without violations on the leasee part? I can't imagine the price going any higher conceidering the sorroundings. I promise you it will...they had it all leased for $17/acre without lots of people knowing about it...you think there aren't any others willing to pay to play close to work? It does suck for those of you that are losing the lease, and unfortunately for you guys there are a bunch of folks that want to hunt it too. None of us on this site believe your group would have been dangerous or poor stewards of the land.
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If adjoining landowners can affect the hunting rights of government land, then wouldn't the same be true for WMA's/Corp land where people adjoin such land? That's a can of worms!
Certainly, the BWWB, as I am NOT surprised, went about this the wrong way. Buffer zones should have already been addressed and a public outcry (because the average citizen wasn't given a chance to bid on the land) should have been anticipated.
I will say that I am disgusted at some of the adjoining landowner's reasons for objection to bow hunting only. It's bow hunting!! I am sure the thought of "hunting" was considered and "bow" hunting's actual footprint and safety record was not thought about. However, I would require the screening of applicants and mandate a hunter education class for the people who would hunt.
I live here in the area of Hwy 119 & Hwy 280 and I would love to be able to bow hunt that land but I very seriously doubt that I could afford my current lease AND what it would cost me to hunt BWWB's land too. Between the two, getting away to the middle of nowhere and being in an overnight camphouse environment and cooking and camaraderie with other members is part of my deer hunting experience that I'm not willing to give up.
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If they open it up to bidding I bet that land gets leased for 20$ an acre. There are some BIG deer between Highway 280 and Leeds and there are plenty of rich folks that live in close proximity.
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I'll have to read y'all talk about it, cause I'm not rich.
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My brother works for bwwb. He said they won't lease it to hunters because of liability issues. He did say that they were leasing to a middle man to reduce the liabilities and let them do what ever. My understanding was that mostly bwwb employees ended up with the leases before it was rescinded. They new when it was going on the available properties which was first come first serve.
He did say that several years ago the lady over the lake (gatekeeper ?) got caught selling pay hunts on the property. Not sure if this true or not
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If they open it up to bidding I bet that land gets leased for 20$ an acre. There are some BIG deer between Highway 280 and Leeds and there are plenty of rich folks that live in close proximity. Exactly my old boss that lives in grey stone would fork that out. He spends $30,000 to hunt in alicville what's another couple grand.
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If they open it up to bidding I bet that land gets leased for 20$ an acre. I'll bet it goes for a good bit more.
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He did say that several years ago the lady over the lake (gatekeeper ?) got caught selling pay hunts on the property. Not sure if this true or not not true
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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The Paid Hunts on USX Property involving you were not true either?
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THE HUNTERS YOU HAULED AROUND IN THE STATE TRUCK WAS NOT TRUE EITHER?
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The Paid Hunts on USX Property involving you were not true either? if you are making an accusation, ride down here and I'll answer that in person. the folks I carried hunting on USX property were with the express consent of USX who were notified before hand. The hunters were winning bidders in an internet auction to raise money for St Judes Hospital and ALL monies went straight to them. I, nor anyone at USX, ever saw a dime of that , or any other, money. Anyone who says different is a two bit lying sonofabitch. Dang hunts cost me money to feed the two hunters. Total two hunters. I had, still have, a full page typed letter from USX permitting me to do any thing I wanted on their land and to carry anyone I wanted to on their land. I did other hunts on other properties(private) to raise money for St Judes Hospital for several years after that. Never had a single dime of that money pass thru, or stick, to my hands. If you think helping to raise money for St Judes is a bad thing, ride on down here and I'll splain it to you in a manner your dumb ass can comprehend.(was that too big a word for you???) did that answer you question shitt for brains?????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Who is this guy Troy? If someone is going to accuse people of things they should at least say who they are.
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Did Coal win that contest? I bet he was one of those lucky contest winners....... 
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Sounds like bham fred may have given coal a hard time when he was a gw. Prob easy to make a few people mad In that line of work.
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That was the rumor going around back when he left or was terminated from his position. I never met him but use to ride all the usx property he hunted. He had it made hunting that land there are some giants out there.
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Just for the record I was not insinuating that bhamfred was a part of the alleged pay to hunt rumor.
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No need for an explanation. Remember, the truth will set you free. 
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No, I never hunted in his area.
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