|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
|
30
|
31
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
24 members (BAR1225, RCHRR, TexasHuntress, WINMAG300, russellb, James, YellaLineHunter, woodduck, Jweeks, janiemae, CouchNapper, Chad Burnette, Mulcher, desertdog, mcninja, Ron A., MIB, dave260rem!, NoHuntin, ImThere, 4 invisible),
718
guests, and
0
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 27,316 Likes: 252
Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
|
|
Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 27,316 Likes: 252 |
I just watched something on youtube that opened up saying over 30000 combat vetrans from the war in the middle east committed suicide and that was 4x as many as actually died in combat. If thats true we have a serious problem.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 17,376 Likes: 203
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 17,376 Likes: 203 |
We absolutely have that problem. Meanwhile, money that could help get them right is spent on a fuggin somali pirate.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 27,316 Likes: 252
Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
|
|
Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 27,316 Likes: 252 |
If you go to war and are 4x as likely to kill yourself as to be killed by the enemy, we are doing something very bad wrong. Thats just crazy to me. Whats the answer?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 3,840 Likes: 46
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 3,840 Likes: 46 |
I served 2 tours in Nam and I can say that is probably true. Some young men cannot wrap their brain around war, Although some can it still leaves a mark that never goes away
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,572 Likes: 3
8 point
|
|
8 point
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,572 Likes: 3 |
My cousin took his life last Thanksgiving night. He was a Marine and had fought over in that Muslim crap hole. Its a sad situation. All politicians say they want to do something for our veterans but nothing ever happens, they just keep putting it in thier own pockets or sending it to some other stupid country like Ukraine.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,738 Likes: 64
Pope of Aldeer and Expert
|
|
Pope of Aldeer and Expert
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,738 Likes: 64 |
No quick easy answers. The money the pharma and insurance companies bribe our politicians with could be spent on treating mental illnesses but that would be helpful and we can't have nice things. It's not that you want to suicide it's just you feel trapped with no way out and you hurt enough mentally you'll do anything to make the pain stop. Ugly but true. Just a kind word or a "you doing alright today?" Lifts a hurting person out of that hurt yeah something that simple helps out. No I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on the internets.
Support our country. Kill chickens.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,134 Likes: 41
Booner
|
|
Booner
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,134 Likes: 41 |
Spent almost the whole night up with my brother a few years ago.
I am so grateful he called for me to come help.
Combat and injuries in Iraq have haunted him for 20 years, He was in a bad way with alcohol and his demons had him.
Luckily he still knew he had folks who loved him but he had forgotten how much our lord and savior does also.
I just thank the lord I heard my silenced phone in the middle of the night.
It’s Been a blessing to watch him overcome alcohol and start to heal from all his wounds.
Many folks are fighting battles you often never know about
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
|
|
1 member likes this:
Moss |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,660 Likes: 26
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,660 Likes: 26 |
My brother in law didn't purposely do it, but drank his self to death. Was only 44. Really bad PTSD. He was a great guy. His Humvee was blown up. Hurt him pretty bad and he carried his dead best friend across a mine field. This story was confirmed by two other people at his funeral. They couldn't fly them out due to being under fire.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,172 Likes: 19
8 point
|
|
8 point
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,172 Likes: 19 |
I served 2 tours in Nam and I can say that is probably true. Some young men cannot wrap their brain around war, Although some can it still leaves a mark that never goes away Thank you sir for your service . Had cousins served there . Changed their lives .
Brushwacker
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 25,782 Likes: 66
Freak of Nature
|
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 25,782 Likes: 66 |
From missionrollcall.org
According to the VA’s most recent National Veteran Suicide Prevention Annual Report (2024), an average of 17.6 veterans die by suicide every single day. Although this figure is widely accepted, the real number may be even higher.
An Operation Deep Dive report by America’s Warrior Partnership (AWP) suggests that veteran suicides are significantly underreported. AWP suggests that as many as 24 veterans die by suicide per day, with an additional 20 dying by “self-injury mortality,” often overdoses. This totals to a staggering 44 veterans who die by suicide per day, about 2.4 times more than the VA’s estimate.
Mission Roll Call acknowledges the VA’s cautious approach in classifying overdoses as suicides. But the discrepancy between these two reports highlights a deeper issue: we need better data, better definitions, and more transparent reporting. Without accurate data, prevention strategies will always fall short.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 15,578 Likes: 96
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 15,578 Likes: 96 |
I served 2 tours in Nam and I can say that is probably true. Some young men cannot wrap their brain around war, Although some can it still leaves a mark that never goes away Thank you Brother! Have several friends that were over there. Had one good friend that was a Medal of Honor recipient at 18 from Vietnam.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 27,316 Likes: 252
Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
|
|
Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 27,316 Likes: 252 |
Well, reading things like this just adds to the disgust i have for those running our country.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,084 Likes: 3
12 point
|
|
12 point
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,084 Likes: 3 |
I’ve started and then deleted several times.
Yes, it is an enormous problem.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 4,976 Likes: 39
12 point
|
|
12 point
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 4,976 Likes: 39 |
Absolutely grateful for anyone who served!!!
Love a good hunting story, love my family and friends. Some people you can't, but acted like do.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,268 Likes: 62
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 18,268 Likes: 62 |
Unfortunately, many cases don’t get attention until someone gets hurt.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,065 Likes: 4
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,065 Likes: 4 |
My uncle serves 2 tours in Vietnam. Never ever talked about it but died with a whiskey bottle still in his hand at 43
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 26,559 Likes: 166
Freak of Nature
|
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 26,559 Likes: 166 |
It’s serious problem that’s not being addressed properly. Things are slowly changing but still. Some folks can handle the trauma better than others, kinda depends on how you’re wired. My uncle had shell shock as dad called it. Came back from D Day totally changed. I know a guy who’s brother in law was a tunnel rat in Nam. That guy literally locks himself in a room every night, wakes up screaming and fighting anyone in the room. Kinda why he sleeps alone. Know a guy that saw Somalia first hand. Many self medicate with alcohol and some worse and become homeless.
I can’t imagine the trauma experienced by our troops that have seen combat and we as a country have failed them
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 13,321 Likes: 22
Booner
|
|
Booner
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 13,321 Likes: 22 |
My uncle serves 2 tours in Vietnam. Never ever talked about it but died with a whiskey bottle still in his hand at 43 My dad did the same just a few days before his 60th birthday.
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 4,968 Likes: 2
12 point
|
|
12 point
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 4,968 Likes: 2 |
I’ve started and then deleted several times.
Yes, it is an enormous problem. Same…Lost 7 from my unit alone to suicide/drugs-booze since 2009…All kinds of backgrounds, all kinds of family dynamics, all races.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,814
14 point
|
|
14 point
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,814 |
Th is a growing problem. The VA throws prescriptions at veterans and thinks it's the answer when it just causes a bigger issue. I've been there i know and have seen and met a lot of great people in bad spots from Vietnam veterans to current day. Please just answer the phone for someone you know and let them know you're there for them. There's some great organizations out there trying to help and raise awareness
Free men aren't equal and equal men aren't free! I choose to defend my freedom!
|
|
|
|
|