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If Republicans lose for honoring the sanctity of innocent life...regardless of manner of conception innocent life is the same precious commodity loved by God...then that says a whole freaking lot more about the humanistic progressive left than anyone else. At some point, foundation principles have to rule a person's worldview. As for me, the test question is simple: is innocent human life sacred? If it is then is it worth saving? I say yes and yes. Many of you may disagree. It's America. Yeah , there's the problem . Keep god out of it . You don't have to use god in the argument to win . Yall need to learn when you force your religion belief into stuff it scares the big majority of the people . You ain't never gonna win.
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"Democrats helped set up the fight, choosing not to vote with three moderate Republicans who wanted to keep the exceptions in the bill."
Democrats play the republicans like a banjo. What brain dead republican even put that into the original bill or allowed it?
Not sure I follow your logic here - they are going to lose b/c the Dems helped them take the exceptions out of the main bill but they were brain dead for even allowing it in there to begin with? Isn't the end result of the bill the same in those scenarios? No. The vote was to remove incest & rape from the original bill and it failed. Now the democrats can scream that the republicans put together a bill to force girl that were molested by their father, and girls that were raped.
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If Republicans lose for honoring the sanctity of innocent life...regardless of manner of conception innocent life is the same precious commodity loved by God...then that says a whole freaking lot more about the humanistic progressive left than anyone else. At some point, foundation principles have to rule a person's worldview. As for me, the test question is simple: is innocent human life sacred? If it is then is it worth saving? I say yes and yes. Many of you may disagree. It's America. Yeah , there's the problem . Keep god out of it . You don't have to use god in the argument to win . Yall need to learn when you force your religion belief into stuff it scares the big majority of the people . You ain't never gonna win. Keeping God out of a discussion on the sanctity of innocent life...that's the solution to the problem? The problem is that people have turned their backs to what is honorable, noble, just, right and good. So they have redefined things in order to justify their notions and in the process have compromised their moral integrity and stepped away from a position of virtue. This debate is a resulting damage of the growth of a self focused, atheistic, humanistic, anti-God Progressive Movement culture. It's influenced and infiltrated the hearts and minds of so many. People willingly compromise their values to get along or either they become indoctrinated and abandon once held beliefs. God ain't the problem. If people are scared of virtue then they are sheep answering the call of a false master.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Who gives a hoot if the republicans or democrats win? Tuberville is giving Pelosi a run for her money on insider trading, and Katie Britt will probably do the same thing. People want elected offices for their own self interest. It’s not because they want to bring Jesus back into the schools or represent their constituents. They only do the latter to preserve their self interests.
I guess you could say we’ve sent the most up-front and honest ones. They really don’t even try to hide it that much.
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If Republicans lose for honoring the sanctity of innocent life...regardless of manner of conception innocent life is the same precious commodity loved by God...then that says a whole freaking lot more about the humanistic progressive left than anyone else. At some point, foundation principles have to rule a person's worldview. As for me, the test question is simple: is innocent human life sacred? If it is then is it worth saving? I say yes and yes. Many of you may disagree. It's America. Yeah , there's the problem . Keep god out of it . You don't have to use god in the argument to win . Yall need to learn when you force your religion belief into stuff it scares the big majority of the people . You ain't never gonna win. Keeping God out of a discussion on the sanctity of innocent life...that's the solution to the problem? The problem is that people have turned their backs to what is honorable, noble, just, right and good. So they have redefined things in order to justify their notions and in the process have compromised their moral integrity and stepped away from a position of virtue. This debate is a resulting damage of the growth of a self focused, atheistic, humanistic, anti-God Progressive Movement culture. It's influenced and infiltrated the hearts and minds of so many. People willingly compromise their values to get along or either they become indoctrinated and abandon once held beliefs. God ain't the problem. If people are scared of virtue then they are sheep answering the call of a false master. Sorry but people just ain't finding god that great . You force on them they gonna dislike it even more Ikeep Christianity in the political setting if it's so great it'll win. You force it thru public policy you anit gonna win you gonna lose it all In the end which is better mosly wining or totally loseing. This total ban on all abortion ain't gonna work .
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Frankie, I haven't mentioned anything about abortion directly.
I haven't really even mentioned God in this thread other than to say He loves innocent life and it's precious.
I didn't quote a Scripture.
I didn't speak to Christian ideals exclusively.
My point is broader than that which is crystal clear in my posts. Regardless of a person's faith or lack of faith in God, there has been a mass departure away from the traditional and honored virtues that are true, right, noble, and good. People have abandoned their once solid worldview based on virtue (moral goodness or excellence) in favor of beliefs rooted in the ideals spawned from the indoctrination of the cancerous plague of Humanism.
There is an absolute truth or two that are unwavering. There is known in the hearts of mankind what is true, good and right and conversely it is known what is false, bad and wrong...these are cross cultural and time universal truths. Among those truths are the concepts of: Innocent human life has value & valued life deserves protection. These are core foundation principles that separate good from evil. These are not just Christian beliefs. These are moral truths. These are marks of virtue.
Society has continued to erode and further abandon virtue and moral excellence as the years pass. I'm not talking about individual issues but our cultural as a whole. This is the true problem. Standing up for protection of the most innocent could only be seen as a problem and God being mentioned as a problem ( basically put on trial as worthy to be even mentioned vs political risk) to those who have also rejected a worldview based on virtue and goodness and universal Absolute Truth.
As for me and I haven't made this part of the discussion...there is just one author of Absolute Truth and of Virtue. God Almighty. The Great I AM. Lack of belief doesn't erase the Truth. And for the record, I am just a sinner saved by Grace and do not dare include myself as some special virtuous person. Yet I know the truth and why our nation is eroding as I just try (and often fail) to live a life that honors what I believe.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Frankie, I haven't mentioned anything about abortion directly.
I haven't really even mentioned God in this thread other than to say He loves innocent life and it's precious.
I didn't quote a Scripture.
I didn't speak to Christian ideals exclusively.
My point is broader than that which is crystal clear in my posts. Regardless of a person's faith or lack of faith in God, there has been a mass departure away from the traditional and honored virtues that are true, right, noble, and good. People have abandoned their once solid worldview based on virtue (moral goodness or excellence) in favor of beliefs rooted in the ideals spawned from the indoctrination of the cancerous plague of Humanism.
There is an absolute truth or two that are unwavering. There is known in the hearts of mankind what is true, good and right and conversely it is known what is false, bad and wrong...these are cross cultural and time universal truths. Among those truths are the concepts of: Innocent human life has value & valued life deserves protection. These are core foundation principles that separate good from evil. These are not just Christian beliefs. These are moral truths. These are marks of virtue.
Society has continued to erode and further abandon virtue and moral excellence as the years pass. I'm not talking about individual issues but our cultural as a whole. This is the true problem. Standing up for protection of the most innocent could only be seen as a problem and God being mentioned as a problem ( basically put on trial as worthy to be even mentioned vs political risk) to those who have also rejected a worldview based on virtue and goodness and universal Absolute Truth.
As for me and I haven't made this part of the discussion...there is just one author of Absolute Truth and of Virtue. God Almighty. The Great I AM. Lack of belief doesn't erase the Truth. And for the record, I am just a sinner saved by Grace and do not dare include myself as some special virtuous person. Yet I know the truth and why our nation is eroding as I just try (and often fail) to live a life that honors what I believe.
I'll just say I agree with you more than you may think.the list would be long
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I was listening to Amanda Shires interview with Terry Gross. Shires is married to Jason Isbell. She kept mentioning her abortion. She made a very strong case since hers was a medical necessity since she was bleeding internally. She said she’d have to go out of country now because of the recent ruling. That is false but she was convincing and kept on with her liberal ideologies so changed the channel.
That’s the issue we face. The live outperform conservatives 10-1 on social media. That’s where elections are gonna be won and lost in the future.
Rape, incest and medical abortion necessity is in a minority but overwhelming emotional liberal play and they’ll win on that platform.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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I was listening to Amanda Shires interview with Terry Gross. Shires is married to Jason Isbell. She kept mentioning her abortion. She made a very strong case since hers was a medical necessity since she was bleeding internally. She said she’d have to go out of country now because of the recent ruling. That is false but she was convincing and kept on with her liberal ideologies so changed the channel.
That’s the issue we face. The live outperform conservatives 10-1 on social media. That’s where elections are gonna be won and lost in the future.
Rape, incest and medical abortion necessity is in a minority but overwhelming emotional liberal play and they’ll win on that platform. Why we should pound into people heads what partial birth abortion is explain to people what it is and how , when it's done . Tell people this what the libs want . People in general don't know
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only the Republican Party could screw this up.
starts at the top w/ sellout McConnell. he's a master of Senate procedure but only complaining about the Demwits w/out a unified election plan (like Gingrich's Contract w/ America '94) means average gains in the mid terms.
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I was listening to Amanda Shires interview with Terry Gross. Shires is married to Jason Isbell. She kept mentioning her abortion. She made a very strong case since hers was a medical necessity since she was bleeding internally. She said she’d have to go out of country now because of the recent ruling. That is false but she was convincing and kept on with her liberal ideologies so changed the channel.
That’s the issue we face. The live outperform conservatives 10-1 on social media. That’s where elections are gonna be won and lost in the future.
Rape, incest and medical abortion necessity is in a minority but overwhelming emotional liberal play and they’ll win on that platform. Why we should pound into people heads what partial birth abortion is explain to people what it is and how , when it's done . Tell people this what the libs want . People in general don't know They know but it doesn’t apply to them so it’s easier to ignore. No different than the baby being born and then killing it didn’t seem to bother many folks. See how they cover for it https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...n-bill-are-missing-context-idUSKBN27D2HLThis is why I’ve been saying we’ve already lost, we’re just now realizing it We lost the battle 20+ years ago while we were busy living and they were busy planning and initiating their plans
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Had an old friend that was older, old school democrat and elder at their church. He was so tore up about abortion when the church was holding a week long informed sermon about it. He was absolutely beside himself
He also got mad as heck at me for reminding him democrats voted for it. He corrected me and said it as those liberals. I reminds him the were elected as democrats.
Didn’t matter, it was not his beloved democrats that did this. There as no changing his mind.
It’s WHY I say I’ll give them the first trimester and no to the remaining pregnancy unless the life of the mother is at stake
In a divided country with half that think it’s fine to kill a baby in the womb or just born there is no way forward otherwise at this point.
Just like my old friend. It’s disgusting how abortion is done we agreed but differed by who. Some will never be concerned with its brutality. So here we are.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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I was listening to Amanda Shires interview with Terry Gross. Shires is married to Jason Isbell. She kept mentioning her abortion. She made a very strong case since hers was a medical necessity since she was bleeding internally. She said she’d have to go out of country now because of the recent ruling. That is false but she was convincing and kept on with her liberal ideologies so changed the channel.
That’s the issue we face. The live outperform conservatives 10-1 on social media. That’s where elections are gonna be won and lost in the future.
Rape, incest and medical abortion necessity is in a minority but overwhelming emotional liberal play and they’ll win on that platform. Why we should pound into people heads what partial birth abortion is explain to people what it is and how , when it's done . Tell people this what the libs want . People in general don't know They know but it doesn’t apply to them so it’s easier to ignore. No different than the baby being born and then killing it didn’t seem to bother many folks. See how they cover for it https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...n-bill-are-missing-context-idUSKBN27D2HLThis is why I’ve been saying we’ve already lost, we’re just now realizing it We lost the battle 20+ years ago while we were busy living and they were busy planning and initiating their plans I don't think we've lost but we damn sure losing
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Oh we’ve lost no doubt
They own and control everything when it comes to children
Disney
Schools
Pop Culture
Social Media
News media
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Next few year's will be new life or a death nail imo
We don't win the house and lose in 24 . We done
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I’ll go back and add that the fact the war on Christian principles and God is where the left began. Tearing down that foundation weakened this country. It was used around the world with the same outcome. We followed suit. It’s actually in the writings of how to take down a self sufficient society. Debauchery https://www.breitbart.com/social-ju...packard-sponsor-child-drag-performances/
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I tell you what. Abortion is BAAL worship. They freaking butcher the unborn, and sell them off for $. We all sit by and make excuses for why we should give into this or that to keep them out of power. I'd rather be on the God side first. It wouldn't matter if rape, incest and the mothers life was 1 in 1 billion, the demon's are going to throw it out there. I think if you want an abortion, you ought to have to watch one performed. You need to hold the parts that come out. See little fingers and toes, and split skulls and what not. Once conception begins, its not the kids fault someone did something wrong. The kid shouldn't have to lose its shot at life because of it. And I will tell you something else, and you can call me crazy all you want. If you don't think Satan knows which unborn child is the biggest threat to him, you are dreaming. The bigger a threat you are to the kingdom of satan, the sooner you are derailed. And his number 1 tool ==> https://www.christianity.com/wiki/christian-life/what-is-the-jezebel-spirit.html
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