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^^^ habitat what killed the quail off - quail use to be everywhere- bout extinct now
Plus now we got hogs IMO,,,,, fire ants !!!!!! Soon as the peak that shell open its over. When we had bantam chickens if we didn't watch the nest the ants would get ever one in some nests. I bet they rough on turkey eggs too
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Yes. Go watch SpringThunder on YouTube or take a peak at Michael Waddells Twitter. There are BIG names in the hunting industry that pull out a decoy or a fan everytime a turkey hangs up at 80 yards and it’s teaching the new generation that it’s an ethical way to hunt turkeys.
They hang up cause the Tom can see 80 yards . I guess the experts didn't get the memo
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I dont use decoys or fans really much at all.Heck I dont even use a vest most times. A few mouth calls in my pocket and MAYBE a slate and a striker and scrubby pad in my cargo pants but I am not for making anything illegal because I dont like it. I dont like TSS. Period. Dont use it. I have some and a choke tube. Never put it in my gun. But I hear folks on here talking about shooting gobblers at 70 yards. and Yall think a decoy or fan should be illegal? Selective thinking I guess. If I cant shoot them at 35 dam yards or less I dont shoot. I Guess they should outlaw TSS. since I DONT USE It. If you cant call em close enough to smell their breath then go the heck home.  Might as well break out yer dam rifle! Dam silly ass thinking here these days. Especially from folks that have fanned and used decoys before. Getting all dem like up in this place lately. Outlaw whatever you dont like and use? Well as long as youre not doing it yourselves NOW!  But it sure was great when YOU used it!??  Like dems and guns. SMDH at the hypocrisy. Yall need to rethink your THINKING. It is embarrassing. The hypocrisy runs strong in this place dont it. I hunt with a guy who got his first bird from fanning with Brent M , Makes you go Hmmm...dont it?  Yall crack me up with your better than though, purist attitudes while shooting TSS and all. Please spare us ok? And Yall wonder why they say hunters are their own worse enemy? My lord at the stink in here . Same with deer. bow hunting, X bow hunting. muzzleloader. Screw the anti hunters. You all are just as bad and need to pull your heads out of your arses , and that is a FACT. And another Rant over. Jeez Yall. Look in the dam mirror before you open those mouths
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it froze over
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There’s the first name caller 🙄 Get offended all u want big guy. A lot of these guys, including myself, were killing turkeys way before TSS or decoys and don’t need either one. If somebody is gonna try one at 70 knowing he’s at 70, he’ll do it with number 4 lead or TSS 9’s. They’re one in the same. One just has way more pellets than the other. But you’re trying to act like we just want decoys done away with out of jealousy or something. It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with not hearing or seeing turkeys, gobblers especially……Hunter satisfaction (or lack of) along with the state reducing limits is going to reduce the amount of money and time put in by private landowners (the guys that own property that actually give a crap about turkeys/wildlife) and cause even further reductions in numbers. If you think that decoys and fanning aren’t causing a part of the reduction in gobbling and turkeys, you’re, well….just blind I guess. Decoys along with YouTube bookface, tweeter, and all other social media has caused a huge rise in hunter numbers. A lot of the people that are newer to the sport use decoys and fans so they too can put their pretty little pic up with a turkey or 4. That affects us all. Which causes these type discussions. Call us what you want, but I call us people who are concerned for the sport and wanting our kids and generations after to be able to enjoy what was once an awesome experience.
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Ok. Ill call you a hypocrite. You shoot 70 yards but condemn decoys. I dont use EITHER but if the shoe fits buddy put her on Cinderella. And I was killing turkeys..well before you were born.  But dont let that stop you from trying to outlaw whatever YOU dont like or use. And rationailizing it too. Nice! Literally..thanks for proving my point about hypocrisy. Yall crack me up. Yall are just some serious conservationists here with your TSS. What a freaking joke. So the only advances you like are the ones you personally use. Well Now. When you all used them..well they were OK then..but now..Nah since we are all jumping on some random band wagon. This year..decoys? Next year,,maybe TSS and affecting you? Oh hell no..the bitching will be strong in here than. What a JOKE Yeah thats not being a total subjective guy..lol. How freaking rich . Youre hypocrisy is HILARIOUS. Remember my mirror reference and hunter being their worse enemy? . Look in it bud 
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Personally Im old school. 50 years turkey hunting. If you have store bought calls..no good. We made our own with snuff cans, lathes and dowels. Store bought calls..Illegal! If you have TSS no good.Illegal Chokes? we used single shot 12 gauges when I started. Pump guns..illegal. chokes..illegal..TSS ? Illegal? decoys? Illegal? Blinds? Illegal? Camo..never had it when I started..Illegal? A freaking turkey VEST? Never had them when I started. Bet you have multiples of every thing I mentioned and your the purist?? Yall make me laugh. Stop with your nonsense. It is a joke ..give it a dam rest. To be honest..100 percent honest...., half yer asses would never be turkey hunting without seeing VIDEOS of it. How freaking rich is that? And it is the truth so KMA . Save yer purist BS outrage for someone who believes it. I think it is a freaking joke. My wife is hunting with 2 3/4 inch 6's and you all are throwing TSS 70 yards down range? Please.  There have been a ton of advances in turkey hunting since I started for sure. I dont condemn ANY of them. What people want to use and do they can. Last time I checked this was Freaking America. I dont give a flying rats arse about what you use or how you hunt as long as it is IN SEASON AND LEGAL. I certainly dont want things made illegal just because I DONT USE them. And IMO anyone who does is part of the problem. Its all fun and games until they take away the way YOU like to hunt. Then youll be on here bitching non stop. Silliest thing Ive ever seen and the stupidest. Just saying!, Make some sense OK? And the problem is the same across this whole darn country these days. If you dont see that yer blind. People trying to outlaw what they dont like .( it was OK..when THEY LIKED IT) Mainly from dems. So dont complain about chit when youre calling for the same dam thing here.
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OK guys I was just BSing around . Lol
I don't care how you hunt. One thing is true making it easier to kill turkeys means more will get killed.
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I must have missed the memo that said if you shoot tss, you shoot turkeys at 70 yards. My personal goal to get the turkey 40 yards or closer never changed when I switched to tss. It never changed when I switched from lead to hevi shot years ago either. If they banned tss, I'd have no problem going back to hevi or lead.
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Not really sure how I can be any more clear Phil. The very first sentence in my post said I’m not judging anybody for it because I’ve done it but after the first half dozen or so I figured out it wasn’t fair. I even remember the turkey you’re talking about…… walked up on top of a hill in a rolling pasture, see a gobbler about 400 yards off, hold a fan up and here he came running wide open. That really made me a badass turkey hunter didn’t it? Nope. Just made me complicit to murder because I’d say the odds of us killing a turkey that had already most likely seen us without a fan would have been almost zero.
Now think about how many people are hunting in Alabama and how many turkeys die exactly that way every year and tell me again it has no effect on the population
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I'm late to the party but, is Here4fun the same guy as ODO? I mean no disrespect.
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I'm late to the party but, is Here4fun the same guy as ODO? I mean no disrespect. Different Phil
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I'm late to the party but, is Here4fun the same guy as ODO? I mean no disrespect. I think you may be on to something. The incoherent ramblings are very similar.
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Now think about how many people are hunting in Alabama and how many turkeys die exactly that way every year and tell me again it has no effect on the population
Very few get killed that way in the SW part of the state. No fields. Minimal affect around here to be honest. I basically stopped carrying them, too much trouble.
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Dang good article. Get rid of fans and decoys, ban feeding again year round, ban the posting of dead turkey pics on the internet and social media and we would have more turkeys than a man would know what to do with. All of that will never happen of course, but true nonetheless.
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"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Now think about how many people are hunting in Alabama and how many turkeys die exactly that way every year and tell me again it has no effect on the population
Very few get killed that way in the SW part of the state. No fields. Minimal affect around here to be honest. I basically stopped carrying them, too much trouble. You would be surprised before green up it’s not that difficult to get in eye sight of a gobbler be it in a south Ala bottom or a north Ala mtn side.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Now think about how many people are hunting in Alabama and how many turkeys die exactly that way every year and tell me again it has no effect on the population
Very few get killed that way in the SW part of the state. No fields. Minimal affect around here to be honest. I basically stopped carrying them, too much trouble. You would be surprised before green up it’s not that difficult to get in eye sight of a gobbler be it in a south Ala bottom or a north Ala mtn side. Before greenup? It’s green here when season starts. Baiting is more the issue - takes the place of it - same result. I could fill up a warehouse with scratch feed I find in the woods every Spring.
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it froze over
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I'm late to the party but, is Here4fun the same guy as ODO? I mean no disrespect. Different Phil No way. This guy is a much bigger bitch and needs his attitude adjusted. Evidently mommy and daddy didn’t do that for him. If he’s been killing turkeys for 50, somebody along the way has done it, so that tells me he is slow too. His reading comp. is almost retard level.
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later... 
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Mr. Turkey
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I wanna do away with baiting too. Baiting for deer has increased the coon population ten fold. All they have to do now is sit around and eat free corn and keep making baby coons
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Isn't fanning illegal in Alabama now? Didn't they enact a law that you can't manipulate or move a decoy or something to that effect? Or have I been on the crack pipe this morning?
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Dances With Weeds
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Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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