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My backyard is not too big but is nothing but dirt and weeds most of the time. I was seriously thinking about putting down some St. Augustine sod, it would be about 3 to 4 pallets worth but I will need to bring in some topsoil to level out some washed out spots first since it is on an incline. Someone mentioned going with emerald zoysia which is more expensive than the St. augustine but I just dont like the narrow blades of the zoysia and prefer the look and feel of the St. a. My mother in law has St. A in her backyard now and had it for at least 40 years and I love the look and feel of it. My issue is the way the sun rises and sets is that the middle of the backyard yard doesnt get direct sun until about 2:00 PM due to the house blocking it- the sun rises from he East in front of the house and has to clear Shades Mnt before it is direct sunlight to the yard.
Anyone here messed with St. Augustine before and I will be glad to listen to any tips or comments you can offer.
Thanks!!!
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The St Augustine in my yard does better in the shady and less sunlit areas.
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Its a PIA, needs a lot of fertilizer, not very drought resistant, bugs love it, fungus is a problem every year. Zoysia would be a better choice. You also need to understand going into this, whatever you use is going to look good at first then decline for a period of time and depending on how you take care of it, over time it will come back and look better. The reason I say that, the sod you buy is going to come from a sod farm, and on that sod farm there is something they do not have, that is trees = shade. The sod you get will have been grown in full sun conditions, it is going to shock and decline for a while. As long as you understand that and take care of it appropriately it will look fine long term.
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St Augustine is beautiful.....runs and grows almost like a vine . It does not weed well. You will have to stay on top of it to keep weeds out, etc. That is why folks like zoysia so well. It is thick like the muff of a mid 70's playboy centerfold. It 'll keep the weeds out pretty well without much of a fight.
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Look up the lawn care nut on youtube.
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Is Meyer Zoysia still available? It's a wider blade IIRC
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Is Meyer Zoysia still available? It's a wider blade IIRC Yes. I’ve got some in my backyard. Installed 2 years ago. It’s also called Z-52
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Sounds like you have a lot of shade. The best grass for shade is going to be a Zoysia. Zeon Zoysia is a new variety and I’ve installed a lot of pallets of it over the years and it does great. Not as fine of a blade as Emerald and has that carpet feel. It’s nice.
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Zoysia needs a lot of sunshine to make it live. If it’s a shaded area it won’t last long. St Augustine is good but does tend to get a fungus sometimes. If it were me I’d till the area up rake it down and throw the sod
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I like the Meyer / Z52 Zoyzia. Feels good under your feet and easy to care for it. It needs sun but is more shade tolerant than Bermuda.
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The zeon that was mentioned is good stuff for sure.
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Almost all the warm season turfgrasses need 4-5 hours, minimum, of DIRECT sunlight to maintain acceptable quality. Also, St Augustine doesn’t take too well to freezes, and can have winter decline over the years. Zoysia would be a better bet, but you’ll have to take into account how much sunlight it’ll get.
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