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Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,712 Likes: 12
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I swear I heard or saw Ford is coming out with an under 20,000 dollar truck. Probably like a striped down Ranger or S 10 use to be.
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Looked at some of the new Ford F-250 gas burners on the internet last week. That is what I want for my next truck but would like to wait until the new engine is a couple years old. Was a bunch in the 42k-45k range.
Last edited by mike35549; 05/10/20 06:51 PM.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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[quote=Acorn]Nearly 20k off MSRP sounds pretty good. Do you mind PM me some details? And yes, I agree that rebates are typically much better for me than 0% financing.
I simply researched all available rebates on the truck that I wanted and estimated the mark up on the truck, also traded My old truck in for $1000 to qualify for trade in incentive of $2000 then bought my truck back for $1000 since I wanted to keep it, since it was a Chevrolet I got another allowance for GM retiurn customer something I then called explained the whole deal and made a take it or leave it offer.
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Freak of Nature
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I’m ashamed at some of y’all saying any American man doesn’t “need” a pickup  Who cares what he “needs”, he wants it.
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When will the “deals” be on 19’s to get rid of them?
3 things that define what kind of person a man is: women, money, and deer
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Chit Show Connoisseur
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You are right deadwood. Also, the best salesperson at the dealership is the finance manager. He makes the dealership the most money. Just tell him no.
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Footbsll Bat PSYOPS
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Woops, i deleted my dumb post. Saw a comma was gonna move it Oh well.  Need to do that more, lately 
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Looks like the Tundra is getting redone inside and out. They are claiming 30 MPG or better??
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The reason truck prices are $90k is because they keep pushing financing terms out to unrealistic numbers. It was unheard of 20 years ago for someone to finance an automobile for more than 60 months.
That kept the prices down.
After the 2008 Financial Crisis we started to see 72 and 84 months terms along with even longer in some cases. Thanks Obama. That's what we got for bailing these companies out?
Now they have slashed the warranty and you have to pay for a decent warranty on top of the price of the vehicle. Thus, further increasing the cost.
This should not be allowed to happen. There is something we once had called consumer protection. In this sense THAT is protecting those that understand their financing...... from some dumbarse that is financing a $85,000 diesel F-250 for 108 months that doesn't own a trailer.
Irresponsible consumers is why vehicle prices are this high.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Been in the business for 28 yrs. You can see in my screen name what department. In the early 2000s we would sell 200 to 250 units per month now we sell about a 100. in my thinking price on new trucks is way out of line. You have to understand the big wigs running the show have never been on the front line trying to make a living selling this high priced trucks. The price has gone up much faster than peoples wages, and what do they care when they build a truck and send it to the dealer they get there money right then! On the 0% it is a feel good thing. If you have good credit you ( in most instances) you are not going to pay as much in interest as the rebates you are giving up. And if you are not going to keep it the whole term of finance you are paying 5 to 7 thousand more for the truck.
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The reason truck prices are $90k is because they keep pushing financing terms out to unrealistic numbers. It was unheard of 20 years ago for someone to finance an automobile for more than 60 months.
That kept the prices down.
After the 2008 Financial Crisis we started to see 72 and 84 months terms along with even longer in some cases. Thanks Obama. That's what we got for bailing these companies out?
Now they have slashed the warranty and you have to pay for a decent warranty on top of the price of the vehicle. Thus, further increasing the cost.
This should not be allowed to happen. There is something we once had called consumer protection. In this sense THAT is protecting those that understand their financing...... from some dumbarse that is financing a $85,000 diesel F-250 for 108 months that doesn't own a trailer.
Irresponsible consumers is why vehicle prices are this high. Consumer protection, aka more government regulations? We have way too much of that Horsechitt already!! Does anybody remember caveat emptor, which we learned in 9th grade economics? Yep, trucks are expensive nowadays, but the $90k trucks are not the norm. Most are less than half that much out the door. Big Trucks and big SUV's are cash cows for Detroit. If they didn't sell them they would be outta business.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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I just had a good bit of work done on my 2010 F-150. A whole lot cheaper to maintain them than to buy a new one.
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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I just had a good bit of work done on my 2010 F-150. A whole lot cheaper to maintain them than to buy a new one. True to an extent, but the law of diminishing returns kicks in at some point. Not to mention the time lost due to shop time and not trusting your vehicle will get you where your going without issues. My last truck was an 08 with 250k miles and I knew it needed major work and new tires, probably 5-6k in repair and tire cost. Decided I wasn't going to dump any more money into an old truck so I traded in for an 18 model almost 2 years ago and am glad I did.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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Truck/SUV prices are what they are for one reason and one reason only.................because people are willing to pay it.
MrsYuppie isn't going to be caught dead by the other stay-at-home moms rolling up to "Hot Yoga", or dropping off little Aidyn or Jaydyn or Jaxxon or Raylee or Madilynne or Katelynne at soccer practice, in a 1999 Tahoe with 250,000 miles on the clock and various door dings down the side. Nope, she's gonna tell her husband, supporting a family of 4 on a middle-management paycheck and up to his chin in debt, to go buy her a 2020 Yukon Denali XL so all the other stay-at-home moms will be jealous. Gotta finance it for 96 months with a car note as much or more than the mortgage(s)? So be it! Don't come home without that Yukon, bro, or she'll go find some other schmuck that will get it for her.
Isaiah 5:20
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We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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No way I am paying more for a truck than my 1st house. Aint gonna happen. Why I drive old vehicles
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Truck/SUV prices are what they are for one reason and one reason only.................because people are willing to pay it.
MrsYuppie isn't going to be caught dead by the other stay-at-home moms rolling up to "Hot Yoga", or dropping off little Aidyn or Jaydyn or Jaxxon or Raylee or Madilynne or Katelynne at soccer practice, in a 1999 Tahoe with 250,000 miles on the clock and various door dings down the side. Nope, she's gonna tell her husband, supporting a family of 4 on a middle-management paycheck and up to his chin in debt, to go buy her a 2020 Yukon Denali XL so all the other stay-at-home moms will be jealous. Gotta finance it for 96 months with a car note as much or more than the mortgage(s)? So be it! Don't come home without that Yukon, bro, or she'll go find some other schmuck that will get it for her.
You aint wrong...good thing i aint made it to middle management yet
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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No way I am paying more for a truck than my 1st house. Aint gonna happen. Why I drive old vehicles I know of at least 3 people, personally, that have 3-figure house payments but have a single vehicle with a 4-figure monthly payment. Absolute insanity....but hey, who am I to tell them what they should/shouldn't do....
Isaiah 5:20
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No way I am paying more for a truck than my 1st house. Aint gonna happen. Why I drive old vehicles I know of at least 3 people, personally, that have 3-figure house payments but have a single vehicle with a 4-figure monthly payment. Absolute insanity....but hey, who am I to tell them what they should/shouldn't do.... I wouldnt be able to sleep at night. That is absolutely insane
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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I just try to maintain and keep our vehicles for a LONG time. My 96 Z71 has 336K miles, 2011 Explorer 240K miles- while I understand the thoughts of spending a lot of money to maintain and the thoughts of diminishing returns. But, even at 4K a year in maintenance is cheaper than buying new.
"The struggle you're in today, is developing the strength you need for tomorrow."
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