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Joined: Aug 2003
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Freak of Nature
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LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
- - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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4 point
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Look at what day of the week the 3rd falls on. It’s on a weekend as well. They are really pandering to these weekend hunters.
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Grumpy Old Man
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Look at what day of the week the 3rd falls on. It’s on a weekend as well. They are really pandering to these weekend hunters. Sound biology, isn't it.
I hate making a good first impression. There’s no way I can keep that shit up.
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That’s right... I wish they would stop monkeying with everything. The turkeys where I hunt are pretty much done by the end of April. I’m about give out too. And before anyone says anything, I know that I don’t have to hunt in May, but if the season is in, I’m hunting.
What gripes me is everyone that complains about not being able to hunt during the week. I’m in a position where I hunt for at least a couple of hours most every day. Why can I do this? It’s because I make sacrifices. I go into work later and stay later. When I wasn’t living near my properties, I banked all my overtime and vacation to use during turkey season. I never missed and opening week or closing day, and hunted a lot in between. But, you also didn’t see me taking a week long trip to the beach in the summer. It’s about priorities.
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Grumpy Old Man
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In my opinion it shouldn't matter what anyone WANTS.
It's called the department of conservation and nature resources. Their primary duty should be to conserve the natural resources. Not pander to politics or public relations.
I hate making a good first impression. There’s no way I can keep that shit up.
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Old Mossy Horns
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In my opinion it shouldn't matter what anyone WANTS.
It's called the department of conservation and nature resources. Their primary duty should be to conserve the natural resources. Not pander to politics or public relations. This ^^^^
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Mildly Quirky
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In my opinion it shouldn't matter what anyone WANTS.
It's called the department of conservation and nature resources. Their primary duty should be to conserve the natural resources. Not pander to politics or public relations. Honestly, I'd love to see what the game seasons would look like -- in length and which months, compared to now -- if they went strictly by biology and nothing else. I suspect they would be quite different and probably not what we have now, in regard to the months or time of year.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Booner
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One week later it would be the same as Tn. They are having the same problem with decline in numbers also. I got a gut feeling Turkey have gotten on the same road as quail 20 years ago.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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There are not fewer turkeys. There's smarter turkeys, because of an increase in dumb hunters.
I hate making a good first impression. There’s no way I can keep that shit up.
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I got off on a tangent with my comment. I’m in agreement about the biology vs. public relations. I wish ACDNR could just be honest with us on the reason for change. At least be the way our parents used be, “because I said so.” Not make up very transparent, flimsy stories.
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Freak of Nature
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Limit is still the same so that’s good If you know the data, you know that limits are less important than days in the season. Fewer turkeys will be killed with fewer days in the season. They have actually noted very little decrease in turkey kills by dropping the limit. Stone cold turkey killers just take a friend. By allowing fewer days in the season, there are fewer turkeys killed.
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Woohoo,3 days added to the turkey rut
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10 point
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I think the DCNR has adopted the common core version of wildlife management.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
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Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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I think the DCNR has adopted the common core version of wildlife management. That's an excellent assessment. It makes absolutely no sense. Just like common core mathematics.
I hate making a good first impression. There’s no way I can keep that shit up.
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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bob wallace for the win. 
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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I'm Honey Lou Lou and I voted for Obama... Twice!!!
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I'm Honey Lou Lou and I voted for Obama... Twice!!!
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What I do know is that Lovett Williams thought a later season would do more harm than good. The more that hunters spook setting hens off the nests, the more nests will be abandoned. I have personally witnessed this, so I know it will happen. I haven't read of any concern about this lately.
PCP is spot on here. Where i hunt the birds have usually, mostly shut down by the third week in April. These dates are a perfect example of just arbitrary stupidity.
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Limit is still the same so that’s good If you know the data, you know that limits are less important than days in the season. Fewer turkeys will be killed with fewer days in the season. They have actually noted very little decrease in turkey kills by dropping the limit. Stone cold turkey killers just take a friend. By allowing fewer days in the season, there are fewer turkeys killed. Why would you bring data and anything logical into a discussion that has to do with decisions that the dcnr makes? 🤷🏻♂️ (sarcasm of course)
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where did you find this? I can't find it anywhere online.
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where did you find this? I can't find it anywhere online. Rules and regulations booklet they put out every year
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must not be available online yet.
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