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CSCURTISS #191804 09/30/11 09:25 PM
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I don't disagree Skinny...but what McVeigh got was a slow version of what he deserved...just like anyone who wants to kill innocent Americans. Booth on the other hand got swifter justice. Either way...openly admit that you want to hurt/kill innocent Americans, and you do not deserve fair treatment...end of story.


Booth did what our country is doing. He assasinated an American citizen he saw as a traitor to his own country without a trial.

49er #191808 09/30/11 09:27 PM
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In my mind when the guy moves to another country and is a recruiter for a top terrorist group your pretty much not an American citizen anymore. He got what he asked for, its not like they killed the guy in Huntsville or anything.


Suppose a drug dealer wanted in Mexico for killing his own people there is located in Huntsville. Does Mexico have the right to come to Huntsville and assasinate the guy?


If what you said is the case, the question is...do I mind? No.

We can play the what if's all we want, but this guy needed to be taken out...end of story.


"I do not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. I go killing."
49er #191811 09/30/11 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: 49er
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I don't disagree Skinny...but what McVeigh got was a slow version of what he deserved...just like anyone who wants to kill innocent Americans. Booth on the other hand got swifter justice. Either way...openly admit that you want to hurt/kill innocent Americans, and you do not deserve fair treatment...end of story.


Booth did what our country is doing. He assasinated an American citizen he saw as a traitor to his own country without a trial.


The key here 49er is that we both have a different opinion on this. I respect your thinking...will only ask the same of you as neither of us have the complete answer.


"I do not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. I go killing."
49er #191812 09/30/11 09:29 PM
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You sound like a bunch of tree hugging liberals. The SOB was a terroist, he recurited terroists. You know, the people killing our soldiers and chomping at the bit to kill Americans here. This line of thinking is why our military's got damn hands are so tied up now, this exact line of thinking.


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If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


CSCURTISS #191813 09/30/11 09:30 PM
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We can play the what if's all we want, but this guy needed to be taken out...end of story.


It's never the end of the story when our government abuses it's authority. It always continues to get worse until it's too late to do anything to stop it.

IDOT #191814 09/30/11 09:31 PM
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You sound like a bunch of tree hugging liberals. The SOB was a terroist, he recurited terroists. You know, the people killing our soldiers and chomping at the bit to kill Americans here. This line of thinking is why our military's got damn hands are so tied up now, this exact line of thinking.


Ron Paul's supporters are largely military personnel on active duty.

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Ron Paul is not only currently the only candidate running for president who is a military veteran�he is also the candidate most popular with the military. Reports USA Today:

�GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul consistently has said that the United States should get out of Afghanistan and Iraq and that American military bases around the world should be closed. In this campaign, Paul is getting more donations from people who work for the military than either President Obama or any of the other Republican presidential candidates.�

The size of our debt continues to call into question America�s habit of trying to be the world�s policeman. Paul has been asking this question longer and louder than virtually anyone.

If it is the soldier�s job to do his duty, it is the citizen�s job to question whether their government is putting America�s best and bravest in harm�s way for good reason. Sadly, too often we give the same government we rightly criticize domestically the benefit of the doubt when it comes to our actions abroad.

There�s a world of difference between national defense and an irrational offense and it is America�s soldiers who understand the hardship of war the most. It�s no surprise that they also continue to cheer the one candidate who has always represented their interests the best.


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49er #191815 09/30/11 09:31 PM
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We can play the what if's all we want, but this guy needed to be taken out...end of story.


It's never the end of the story when our government abuses it's authority. It always continues to get worse until it's too late to do anything to stop it.


Did we abuse our authority to end WWII or did we do justice for a better world?


"I do not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. I go killing."
CSCURTISS #191819 09/30/11 09:35 PM
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Did our government abuse it's authority to end WWII, or was it a constitutionally declared war that was fought all out to be won?

49er #191826 09/30/11 09:43 PM
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And so the Libertarian fight goes on..."Is the ware on terror constitutional?"


"I do not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. I go killing."
CSCURTISS #191832 09/30/11 09:52 PM
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And so the Libertarian fight goes on..."Is the ware on terror constitutional?"


Do you think libertarians the only Americans who expect politicians to put into practice what our Constitutions call for?

49er #191835 09/30/11 09:58 PM
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Ron Paul, ACLU condemn Anwar al-Awlaki killing

When Ron Paul and ACLU are in the same heading, you know he has strayed done the wrong path.

For you guys crying over the constitution, what would you have done differently?


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


IDOT #191842 09/30/11 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: ICOT
Ron Paul, ACLU condemn Anwar al-Awlaki killing

When Ron Paul and ACLU are in the same heading, you know he has strayed done the wrong path.

For you guys crying over the constitution, what would you have done differently?


Who's crying?

Supporting and defending our constitution is an oath that every member of our armed forces takes. Every president, senator, member of the House, and every bureaucratic leader and office holder in our government takes the same oath.

What's your problem with our Constitution? Are you a terrorist traitor to your own country that needs to be assassinated without a trial?

Let's see here... doesn't like our Constitution and states it on a public forum. Put him on the list guys.

49er #191844 09/30/11 10:21 PM
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Answer the question, what would YOU have done differently to protect your country?


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


IDOT #191846 09/30/11 10:23 PM
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Follow the law according to our Constitution like Ron Paul advocates.

bill #191848 09/30/11 10:36 PM
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I honestly started this to show Paul as the pacifist he is and I know for a fact he wont be elected but I'm struggeling with the constitutionality of this now.


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49er #191849 09/30/11 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Follow the law according to our Constitution like Ron Paul advocates.


LOL, that is what I figured you would say. NOTHING


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


bill #191854 09/30/11 11:24 PM
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We don't need a President that wants to bring the war, to our own front yards......................

IDOT #191862 10/01/11 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: ICOT
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Follow the law according to our Constitution like Ron Paul advocates.


LOL, that is what I figured you would say. NOTHING


No, that is not saying nothing. The Constitution is all that we got to potentially save us from the Obama Gestapo Healthcare bill, it also gives you the right to have all the guns you want, to say what you want when you want, and the Constitution also tells us how we can avoid expensive Foreign entanglements. The Constitution is a short and clear document. It provides the Freedoms we have today and whenever our Government does something that whittles away at the Constitution then that puts us a step closer to being another dictatorship like those asshats.
Sticking to that pesky Constitution is what makes us United States Americans.


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bill #191864 10/01/11 04:26 AM
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While I agree he should have been killed, they just should have kept it quiet and not been made public. We don't have to brag on doing the right thing.

Now on another note I can completely see Skinnys point, what if they come tommorrow for our guns. It's a fine line we are walikng.

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Ron Paul is wrong on this one. Just like Timothy McViegh to John Wilkes Booth, they are terrorists and got what they deserved.


McVeigh got a fair trail...time has spent and some will argue but so did Booth. What about this guy? The feelings about this may be different, however those two guys got the protection of the Constitution. They got the same Protection that allows you to say "You're Wrong!". Try saying that in Iran.


John Wilkes Booth did not receive a trial. Booth was shot by self-castrated religious fanatic, Boston Corbett, against orders, in the Garret farm's burning barn.

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