Aldeer.com Forums Alabama Deer Talk Serious Deer Talk Forum Suggestions to DCNR law enforcement from Aldeer

I've known for sometime that we have a lot of wardens on here that either view this site or participate in threads. I've spoken to many of them and as evidence when one chimed in on Brett100 mr green jeans thread. So I thought of some ideas we may have to share that DCNR law enforcement may in the near future look into doing. Please keep them constructive and not a bunch of smartassness. Rather you agree with what they do or not.
I'll start.

Have a page on your website that has the picture of the idiots that have been busted for poaching, trespassing and hunting from a road. Maybe by being publicly humiliated they will stop or we as ethical hunters will be able to identify them when or if we ever come in contact.

Fill the current GW vacancies and add more in problem areas.
Develop Policy and a task force to deal with Enforcement issues.

ENFORCE the current Laws and Regulations BEFORE focusing on new ones.

And, for the ones that are trying to do their best in ALL divisions of WFF, a heartfelt THANK YOU!

Replace the gw’s who do barely enough to get by with ones that want to make a difference.

Enforce the laws as written, not like they think they should be written. You can ask 3 gw's the same question and you'll get 3 different answers, then ask the folks in montgomery the same question and you'll get a 4th answer

Not sure if you mean just the wardens or the entire administration, so I am commenting on the administration as I don't think the wardens and/or individual biologist will be able to make the decisions.

1. Have a designated presence on an open forum like this one. A sub-forum set up to answer questions officially and lock the thread.
2. Developing a strong working relationship with the owners of this site could greatly increase the availability of information to the general public.
3. For goodness sake, please hire more wardens and biologist and then give them the necessary tools to do their job in their division.

I hunt public land quite often and the biggest issues I see are lack proper equipment to upkeep the land, and lack of manpower needed to upkeep the land and police it properly. There are tons of complaints that come in during the season and it seems the GWs get overwhelmed sometimes trying to solve cases. Sometimes solving cases takes a lot of time. I hunted public land about 60% of the time this season and got checked only once.

No pictures, but you can view the following arrest disposition reports at this link:

Arrest Disposition Report Dec 2014-May 2017

See page 5 of the Regulation Book:

SPECIAL TASK FORCE

125 Officer Steve Pepper
246 Officer Joel Glover
247 Officer James Altiere
321 Officer Frank McMillan
419 Officer John Bozeman
422 Officer Jerry Jinright
435 Officer Lowell Williams
436 Officer Mike Heath
439 Officer Larry Doster
509 Officer Tim Jacobs

Thanks

But, what exactly does this group do?
Any examples of recent activity in which it was involved solving enforcement issues?
What is the criteria used to define it’s involvement?

I thought that the addition of Tim Jacobs to this committee was just a way to bring him back out of retirement while circumventing the hiring policies?

Not critical.....
Just want to understand!

Great post! I agree with all of the above.
I’ll add this. I am not one who is against game check however I had an experience with a GW that should be enlightening to everyone. While checking in for a public land hunt I was asked if I had my harvest record to which I replied that I had downloaded the app on my phone and was recording kills via the app. He told me quote, “ technically you are hunting illegally if you don’t have paper harvest record”. He went on to say that I couldn’t rely on the app because I might not have service. I didn’t argue with him because it would have been fruitless at 5am in the morning but it shows that lack of understanding of not just the public but also the wardens in charge of enforcing these laws.

You may want to ask the Chief that question:

Michael Weathers, Chief
Enforcement Section
(334) 242-3467

There is no "harvest record" for the 2017-2018 season in the current rule if he wants to get technical. See page 25 of the Regulation Book. The last "harvest record" in the rule was submitted for the 2016-2017 season. It still appears in the Administrative Code of Alabama.

To get even more technical, the Regulation Book isn't even official because it fails to meet the requirements of Section 9-2-8 of the Code of Alabama.

Okay, now I'm sure 49er is back!

It don't take a genius like 49er to read plain English. Look for yourself.

They tend to enforce the laws as their local judges interpret them, not their own versions. But, yes they have different answers because it is the local judges that see things differently causing the different answers


Spoken just like Eddie himself.

I doubt if Shaw would let that get passed him.

Ban hammer time for kjoe.....

leroycnbucks,

Are the reports I posted a link to the kind of information you wanted the DCNR to share?

It took me 3 years and $134 to get them, but they're yours for free if that's what you wanted.


Arrest Disposition Rpt.