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Freak of Nature
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Ha... remembered another one. We had a 250 acre cutover bordered by a paved County Road. We had caught poachers shooting into our cutover several times. Had one idiot in my club walk out into the cutover one morning and put a Glendale Buck decoy up then squatted down in a bush right behind it. I was driving out that morning and seen it sitting on that hillside with the sun shining on it. I knew it was a decoy and stopped and looked at it through the binoculars. I could see the dudes face between the decoys front and rear legs. I drove up there and told him to take it down or at least move away from it. I told him one of the local rednecks was going to stop and take a poke at it from the road and kill him.
He accused me of micro managing and trying to dictate how he would hunt. I was just trying to keep the idiot from getting himself killed.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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When I first read the title I thought you might be opening a beer joint. 
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When I first read the title I thought you might be opening a beer joint. His model would be more successful in that kind of joint.
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If I was ging to run a club , I would be looking at recruiting trophy hunters and this is how I would try to run it . I would assign areas to hunt for each member. I would basically divide the tract up myself based on interior roads and terrain and I would assign areas and they could potentially cost diffrent amounts based on size and huntability, but I would try to keep it as even as possible to avoid this . But if you had a really good producing spot you could charge more for it .. If after straws were drawn the winner could pay for the good spot , or Pass it on to the next guy. I would be looking at keeping members for the long term . If a member wanted to allow someone to hunt there spot , it would be there choice . You could draw straws for the areas if you had a lot of members lined up at the beginning . You could also redraw straws for each season if you wanted , but this would be your choice , if you wanted to keep your area then you could .
Last edited by RonBuck; 01/25/16 03:45 AM.
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We tried this type program years ago but only for our camp house. We had a small fee for each night spent at the house. This was intended to cover the utilities and the idea was that those who used the house would be paying for the utilities. The cost to rent the house was included in the overall cost of the club and as such everyone contributed equally to that.
The rule was pay as you go (no credit) and a money can was furnished to drop your payment in.
Big mistake - not enough members who had the mental capacity to remember to drop their money in the can and too much complaining about "paying my dues and now have to pay to spend the night".
After one year of this we dropped the program and raise dues enough to cover the utilities.
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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If I was ging to run a club , I would be looking at recruiting trophy hunters and this is how I would try to run it . I would assign areas to hunt for each member. I would basically divide the tract up myself based on interior roads and terrain and I would assign areas and they could potentially cost diffrent amounts based on size and huntability, but I would try to keep it as even as possible to avoid this . But if you had a really good producing spot you could charge more for it .. If after straws were drawn the winner could pay for the good spot , or Pass it on to the next guy. I would be looking at keeping members for the long term . If a member wanted to allow someone to hunt there spot , it would be there choice . You could draw straws for the areas if you had a lot of members lined up at the beginning . You could also redraw straws for each season if you wanted , but this would be your choice , if you wanted to keep your area then you could . Are you in a club close to Eufala? A friend of mine is in a club down there and basically when you join you get a 100 acre block. That block is yours to do whatever with you want. You just didn't go on another man's 100 acres and hunt. The members were numbered in seniority and if one got out of the club, the ones below him had the opportunity to take his spot and give up theirs. They said they were very successful with this method and had killed a pile of really good bucks over the last several years. I have a feeling that has more to do with the area that club is located, but it's still an intriguing setup.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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No I've never been in a club before , just going off what I've heard. Deer travel a lot so if you had a few thousand acres this would be the best way to run one IMO.
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10 point
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Way to many variables & uncertainties IMO.
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I think you'll have a bunch of people sneaking deer out or leave the deer laying
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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The no guest restrictions would get me too. I used to be in a club where we had a rule that you could only bring the same guest twice. The president made the mistake of not specifying how many guest days the same guest could come. We had a guy in the club that owned his own little construction company (and I use that term loosely). He would stop working every deer season, to the point of nearly losing his house several times, and bring his dad, who lived out of state, to hunt. They would camp out at the club for up to two weeks. By the rules, that was considered one trip. Then he would do the same thing later on in the season. So, his dad would end up hunting for a total of about 28 days as a guest on two trips. That only lasted one season before that rule was more clearly written.
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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Booner
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$250 for killing a doe? $250 will buy a lot of beef these days, even at the ridiculously high price beef has been the last couple of years.
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Have you tried Google?
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I wouldn't be a member of a club like that.
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The only way to run a drama free club is for one guy to own the land, set the rules with NO grey area and enforce the rules as a dictator. So long as the rules are applied evenly to ALL members including the land owner and all rules are understood up front then there should be little drama. A democracy does not work in a hunting club, EVER. Different rules for different members is also the number one thing that I see causing the most drama in hunting clubs. THe second biggest drama causing behavior is when a member hangs a stand in a certain area and then expects everyone else to stay out of that area, essentially claiming an entire section of the club all to himself. If there is a way to stop these two factors hunting club drama would be significantly reduced.
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The only way to run a drama free club is for one guy to own the land, set the rules with NO grey area and enforce the rules as a dictator. So long as the rules are applied evenly to ALL members including the land owner and all rules are understood up front then there should be little drama. A democracy does not work in a hunting club, EVER. Different rules for different members is also the number one thing that I see causing the most drama in hunting clubs. THe second biggest drama causing behavior is when a member hangs a stand in a certain area and then expects everyone else to stay out of that area, essentially claiming an entire section of the club all to himself. If there is a way to stop these two factors hunting club drama would be significantly reduced. The last club I was in was very specific about this situation. Every stand hung was either a club stand or a public stand, no matter who the stand actually belonged to. All were welcome to hunt
At times my ambition far exceeds my talent.
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