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Clover #3394420 04/20/21 06:55 AM 04/20/21 06:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 993 pensacola,fl. usa B billrv OP 6 point
billrv OP 6 point B Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 993 pensacola,fl. usa	Going to try some Ladino Clover in N.W. Fl. PH is fine with fair soil. Question...should I use a cover crop to help it get started.

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3394519 04/20/21 08:54 AM 04/20/21 08:54 AM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,752 Awbarn, AL CNC Dances With Weeds
CNC Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,752 Awbarn, AL	About 40-50 lbs of cereal rye per acre......Stay with a light rate so you give the clover plenty of space Last edited by CNC; 04/20/21 08:54 AM. We dont rent pigs

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3394537 04/20/21 09:19 AM 04/20/21 09:19 AM
Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,633 Orange Beach, AL J JohnG 8 point
JohnG 8 point J Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,633 Orange Beach, AL	Plant in fall, not spring

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3394628 04/20/21 12:52 PM 04/20/21 12:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 7,075 Free State of Winston F FreeStateHunter They Call Me Gator 🐊
FreeStateHunter They Call Me Gator 🐊 F Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 7,075 Free State of Winston	In the spring you should be able to get away without planting anything else. I planted clover, chicory and oats last fall. I over seeded more clover and chicory about a month ago and just sprayed last weekend. Should have to bush hog about in a couple weeks and let it roll for the summer.

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3394778 04/20/21 04:18 PM 04/20/21 04:18 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,774 Florida J jacannon 10 point
jacannon 10 point J Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,774 Florida	The heat in late summer is what kills ladino. I have always planted it in the fall at 8.25 #s per acre with a bag of cereal rye to over seed. I don't think there is enough time for the roots to be established before August. Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3394837 04/20/21 06:05 PM 04/20/21 06:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,752 Awbarn, AL CNC Dances With Weeds
CNC Dances With Weeds Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,752 Awbarn, AL	Clover does well with a little semi-shade to help protect it from the midday heat......it likes a little moisture and the semi-shade helps to conserve moisture and keep down on midday temps......A standing crop of cereal rye can help provide some semi-shade for the first part of summer if not mowed down ...... Last edited by CNC; 04/20/21 06:06 PM. We dont rent pigs

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3395099 04/21/21 07:41 AM 04/21/21 07:41 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,774 Florida J jacannon 10 point
jacannon 10 point J Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,774 Florida	Crimson planted in the fall after you get your ground is ready would be a much better choice IMO . A weed free plot is much easier to maintain. Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3395229 04/21/21 12:20 PM 04/21/21 12:20 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 10,638 Santa Rosa/Conecuh hallb Booner
hallb Booner Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 10,638 Santa Rosa/Conecuh	we've got tons of clover in our fields from fall planting and also tons of oats and brassicas. It's all getting pretty tall at this point. What is the best way to handle it in the next month or so to try and let the clover thrive? Will just bush hogging it with the cutter up off the ground a bit do the job or do I need to spray it with cleth and let it do it's thing before cutting?

Re: Clover [Re: hallb] #3395274 04/21/21 01:54 PM 04/21/21 01:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,743 Lower AL K k bush 12 point
k bush 12 point K Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,743 Lower AL	Originally Posted by hallb we've got tons of clover in our fields from fall planting and also tons of oats and brassicas. It's all getting pretty tall at this point. What is the best way to handle it in the next month or so to try and let the clover thrive? Will just bush hogging it with the cutter up off the ground a bit do the job or do I need to spray it with cleth and let it do it's thing before cutting? Annual or perennial clover ? If an annual clover mow after seed heads have dried. "Cull" is just another four letter word...

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3395296 04/21/21 02:35 PM 04/21/21 02:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,633 Orange Beach, AL J JohnG 8 point
JohnG 8 point J Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,633 Orange Beach, AL	Once the grass starts growing fast and the deer quit eating it, around the first of March for us, spray.

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3404187 05/06/21 05:56 PM 05/06/21 05:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 652 SW Alabama A ALFisher 4 point
ALFisher 4 point A Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 652 SW Alabama	If the wheat and oats aren't thick, do nothing. If you are worried about grasses overtaking your plot, spray with clethodim, but make sure grasses are growing and not fully mature. If mature, you prolly need to mow, wait a week, and then spray cleth.

Re: Clover [Re: billrv] #3410537 05/18/21 08:35 PM 05/18/21 08:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 203 South Montgomery County, AL Ragin-Cajun 4 point
Ragin-Cajun 4 point Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 203 South Montgomery County, AL	Grows better in soil w more clay than sandy. Read dr. Craig Harper’s clover articles. Wealth of information.