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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: AUjerbear]
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01/31/20 03:21 PM
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I know lots of engineers too dumb to spell their name on a chalkboard.
I don't give a flip about leveling a truck, but I wouldn't argue that a team of engineers could build anything better than I can.
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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/31/20 03:35 PM
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bill
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I don't get the whole point of leveling. It doesn't give you any more ground clearance and reduces mileage. Is it just a boy racer looks thing? It doesn't reduce mileage. I don't like the looks of a truck, or my 4Runner, with the nose diving in the ground and the rear end jacked up. Looks like a womans vehicle to me. Do you buy vehicles you don't like the looks of or do you buy stuff you like? What's the difference? I know a GM engineer who disagrees with you. The reason for the factory stance/rake is for better mileage due to the path of airstream traveling under the truck. Believe it or not they pay attention to this when designing them. I would rather drive a truck a team of engineers designed that way than one that some shadetree mechanic altered with a spacer and different alignment but thats me. I always get 200,000 mi. out of my trucks driving them hard. 200k? That's just when my Toyotas are getting broken in good. I have to admit i'm not real happy with them right now, though. I just replaced a cv axle and wheel bearing in my 2011 with 140k miles. That's the first money I've ever spent , outside scheduled maintenance, in over 750k miles of driving Toyota products. Dead serious. They might not be as good as they used to be. BTW, mine has a 3" lift to level it and I'm getting the exact 18mpg I was getting before the lift and an ASE certified mechanic did mine. I dunno \○/
Last edited by bill; 01/31/20 05:03 PM.
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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: ronfromramer]
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01/31/20 05:35 PM
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Trucks used to be used as trucks, they were higher in the back so that when you put a full load on them the springs didn't bottom out and point you headlights at the moon. A lot of trucks now are glorified family sedan grocery getters with an extra large trunk. I bought my 1st pickup in the early 70s, I've always used them as trucks and I've been a grandpa for 25 years That's why they make 33 flavors of ice cream. It's ok for people to like different things. Even if those things are ugly. 
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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: ronfromramer]
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01/31/20 05:38 PM
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Trucks used to be used as trucks, they were higher in the back so that when you put a full load on them the springs didn't bottom out and point you headlights at the moon. A lot of trucks now are glorified family sedan grocery getters with an extra large trunk. I bought my 1st pickup in the early 70s, I've always used them as trucks and I've been a grandpa for 25 years At least our trucks ain't got that Carolina faggot squat, right?
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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/31/20 05:41 PM
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I don't get the whole point of leveling. It doesn't give you any more ground clearance and reduces mileage. Is it just a boy racer looks thing? It doesn't reduce mileage. I don't like the looks of a truck, or my 4Runner, with the nose diving in the ground and the rear end jacked up. Looks like a womans vehicle to me. Do you buy vehicles you don't like the looks of or do you buy stuff you like? What's the difference? I know a GM engineer who disagrees with you. The reason for the factory stance/rake is for better mileage due to the path of airstream traveling under the truck. Believe it or not they pay attention to this when designing them. I would rather drive a truck a team of engineers designed that way than one that some shadetree mechanic altered with a spacer and different alignment but thats me. I always get 200,000 mi. out of my trucks driving them hard. I'd rather drive a truck that doesn't get stuck. There is zero clearance with the factory stance. The only reason I put one of mine was to get a little larger tire on it and increase the clearance so I wouldn't bottom out constantly.
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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: ronfromramer]
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01/31/20 05:42 PM
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Trucks used to be used as trucks, they were higher in the back so that when you put a full load on them the springs didn't bottom out and point you headlights at the moon. A lot of trucks now are glorified family sedan grocery getters with an extra large trunk. I bought my 1st pickup in the early 70s, I've always used them as trucks and I've been a grandpa for 25 years The mid size trucks of today are rated to pull about as much as everything made in the 70's. . The full size trucks have far , far more towing capacity. Even the half tons.
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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: BPI]
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01/31/20 09:09 PM
01/31/20 09:09 PM
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[/quote]I'd rather drive a truck that doesn't get stuck. There is zero clearance with the factory stance. The only reason I put one of mine was to get a little larger tire on it and increase the clearance so I wouldn't bottom out constantly.[/quote]
If you bottom out constantly a leveling kit is not the fix. Where you choose to drive is the problem.
Last edited by trailertrash; 01/31/20 09:11 PM.
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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: trailertrash]
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02/03/20 08:27 AM
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[/quote]I'd rather drive a truck that doesn't get stuck. There is zero clearance with the factory stance. The only reason I put one of mine was to get a little larger tire on it and increase the clearance so I wouldn't bottom out constantly. If you bottom out constantly a leveling kit is not the fix. Where you choose to drive is the problem. [/quote] It's the problem if you get a truck with street tires and can't get any bigger than a 30 inch tire on it. And hate to break it to you but I can go places where I couldn't because I have a larger tire and a 2 inch level that gave me about 4 inches of lift.
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Re: Leveling Kit Installation
[Re: Out back]
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02/03/20 09:45 AM
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I know lots of engineers too dumb to spell their name on a chalkboard. I already admitted I cant spell. Rub it in why dont you 
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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