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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: Abbhudson]
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08/23/18 08:33 PM
08/23/18 08:33 PM
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jallencrockett
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I think that states should 100 percent manage their resources for the vast usage to be limited to residents only on public land. ALABAMA SHOULD VASTLY limit NR hunting all they can on both private and state owned props. This is just better for the regular guy. However, on fed property inside of state there should be equal non resident and resident access in my opinion. You want the state to dictate who can hunt on privately owned lands? That seems like the 1st step down a very slippery slope. Yes I do to the extent that NR pay so much or limited opportunity that it would allow locals an opportunity to afford leases due to a decrease of supply and demand... this is more so for big game as waters are typically federal.
Last edited by jallencrockett; 08/23/18 08:41 PM.
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: jallencrockett]
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08/23/18 09:08 PM
08/23/18 09:08 PM
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Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 814 NE Alabama
Abbhudson
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6 point
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I think that states should 100 percent manage their resources for the vast usage to be limited to residents only on public land. ALABAMA SHOULD VASTLY limit NR hunting all they can on both private and state owned props. This is just better for the regular guy. However, on fed property inside of state there should be equal non resident and resident access in my opinion. You want the state to dictate who can hunt on privately owned lands? That seems like the 1st step down a very slippery slope. Yes I do to the extent that NR pay so much or limited opportunity that it would allow locals an opportunity to afford leases due to a decrease of supply and demand... this is more so for big game as waters are typically federal. Don't most states already do that?
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: Abbhudson]
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08/23/18 09:24 PM
08/23/18 09:24 PM
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jallencrockett
8 point
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8 point
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Lets say tomorrow new regs we're put into place that no one other than Alabama residents were allowed to hunt in Alabama you think demand for leases would go down enough that prices would drop also? not feasable but yes in the area I hunt. Boocoo leases shoot 50 percent or more are NR with TRUCK LOADS OF CORN WITH FL TAGS.
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: Abbhudson]
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08/23/18 09:46 PM
08/23/18 09:46 PM
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ChiefO
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Posts: 376
Alabama
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I think that states should 100 percent manage their resources for the vast usage to be limited to residents only on public land. ALABAMA SHOULD VASTLY limit NR hunting all they can on both private and state owned props. This is just better for the regular guy. However, on fed property inside of state there should be equal non resident and resident access in my opinion. You want the state to dictate who can hunt on privately owned lands? That seems like the 1st step down a very slippery slope. I agree it could be a slippery slope but at the same time it could be a viable option to reduce impact to state owned acces vs federal. I try to play devils advocate in all situations. I personally would want all access to bayou meto to OOS but if I were an instater/local I’d want the resource for me and my boys primarily. Granted there are second and third order effects here, but I can see the grounds of the argument. Say during turkey season would it be better from your perspective to allow OOS hunters to only access National Forest vs WMA’s? Not sure it’s the right answer from a business perspective but if we’re headed down that road with competing states it may hold ground from an ethical/fair use perspective. Food for thought.
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: Abbhudson]
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08/24/18 06:08 AM
08/24/18 06:08 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 11,271 Walker county
Driveby
Doing the best I can.
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Doing the best I can.
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Walker county
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I guess I underestimated the amount of NR leasing land here. For those saying the state should dictate who a private land owner leases his land to.......I guess I underestimated the number of socialists here.
Last edited by Driveby; 08/24/18 06:08 AM.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: Driveby]
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08/24/18 09:02 AM
08/24/18 09:02 AM
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Posts: 18,029 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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I guess I underestimated the amount of NR leasing land here. For those saying the state should dictate who a private land owner leases his land to.......I guess I underestimated the number of socialists here. Everybody is against government regulations, unless those regulations are for their own interests.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: CeeHawk37]
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08/24/18 10:17 PM
08/24/18 10:17 PM
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Posts: 6,363 On the X
TickaTicka
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Dang. You’d think the $300+ license fee that non-residents pay on top of leases, food, lodging, etc. would be enough. Didn’t know we had folks that would actually advocate for limiting non resident hunting opportunities.
I think Arkansas is making a big mistake by limiting opportunities to non-residents. I figure that will put a decent dent in their economy when folks go elsewhere to hunt. You can either take the revenue or let the locals have the public ground, but you can’t have both. I don't know man, lots of trucks head west for duck season from the SE, so if you limit it, they'll just head west at a different time.. Most of those are headed to private ground anyway, which isn't part of this.
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: Driveby]
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08/28/18 05:05 PM
08/28/18 05:05 PM
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toothdoc
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I guess I underestimated the amount of NR leasing land here. For those saying the state should dictate who a private land owner leases his land to.......I guess I underestimated the number of socialists here. Amen! Landowner should be able to lease it to whoever the hell he wants to.
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: Clem]
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08/29/18 02:24 PM
08/29/18 02:24 PM
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Posts: 9,160 B'ham
Goatkiller
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They just need to send the El Camino Crew up through there to Dave Donaldson and have them make a sweep back South through the Metro area, DeWitt and then back across the river at Helena.
Make it like Sherman's march hitting all the boat ramps with that 1/2 lab/pit mix they got bashing windows and slashing tires.
That's a lot easier than telling people who they can and can't lease to.
The ECC may ride again. You never know.... they might could even get that one missing an eye after getting stabbed with an ice pick by his son in a poker game outa the pen for this raid.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: toothdoc]
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08/31/18 12:20 PM
08/31/18 12:20 PM
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Posts: 1,033 Meridianville
Paddlejon
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I guess I underestimated the amount of NR leasing land here. For those saying the state should dictate who a private land owner leases his land to.......I guess I underestimated the number of socialists here. Amen! Landowner should be able to lease it to whoever the hell he wants to. Must be non land owners suggesting such things as govt control of private property!
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: Clem]
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08/31/18 09:23 PM
08/31/18 09:23 PM
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Posts: 18,893 colbert county
cartervj
Old Mossy Horns
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It's getting crazy out there again on prices. My buddy lost his lease he has been in for 21 years. He's looking at places right now and I must say, prices are way high. I'd guess might have something do with he such to limit out of staters from public grounds.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: TickaTicka]
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09/01/18 09:27 AM
09/01/18 09:27 AM
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Posts: 5,910 Cullman
CKyleC
(Can't Keep It Up...)
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(Can't Keep It Up...)
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Good idea. I agree, nobody should go to arkansas to hunt ducks. Its much better here. This. Especially NEA. Not worth the drive!!
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Arkansas to Non-Resident Waterfowlers: Screw You
[Re: toothdoc]
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09/01/18 09:50 AM
09/01/18 09:50 AM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,948 Round ‘bout there
Clem
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I guess I underestimated the amount of NR leasing land here. For those saying the state should dictate who a private land owner leases his land to.......I guess I underestimated the number of socialists here. Amen! Landowner should be able to lease it to whoever the hell he wants to. And anyone who wants to tell me, a private landowner, who I can or can't lease my land to can smooch my tookus.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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