Lonster, there are people here who won't believe that armpit trick, but I have seen it done. When I was a kid on the farm, we had an old Creek Indian named Gus who worked for us. He used that trick to collect nests that grew in the dried cornfield. We, being chicken-squat white folks, would tie a wad of paper to the end of a bream pole and light it so we could sear the wings off the adult wasps sitting on the nest. Then you hurried to knock down the nests before the unharmed adults flew back in. As mentioned earlier, they didn't last long on a hook. If you want long-lasting bait, it's hard to beat a catalpa sphinx moth caterpillar. That's tobber worms for you unwashed heathens.