Pretty interesting topic. I have no experience hunting eastern bullock county, but I do hunt in western Russell county, close to hurtsboro and not too far from the bullock county line. We aren’t dragging out 250 lb bucks but weve killed a few that are 200-220 lbs each of the past few seasons. And killed some 135-140 lb does as well.

Deer don’t know where the county lines are so I’m pretty surprised that eastern bullock is full of scrawny deer but the areas around them tend to be better

Thats Enon/Sehoy area and it's definitely not the east Bullock I was talking about. Anytime you have large land owners instead of paper companies you are going to have a better situation. It ain't as unbelievable as it was when Cam had it all but that area hasn't dropped much. A lot of money still in that area and it's a top area in the state y'all just need to get a handle on hogs around there before they spread and take over.

Who has Sehoy now? Last I heard it was some kind of military style training facility.

Well it's over 1200ac so several folks own it now and the rest of Enon is for sale.

Is TR trying to sale his portion of enon?

Dax, how many acres was in the old Maytag Plantation?

A lot of it is fragmented now into different tracts. The land on the backside of Sehoy Lake is around 2000 acres leased by two guys out of Florida. I went on a track for them that went right down the base of the lake dam. I’ve tracked on the land behind the airport too and it’s a hunting club now. I think they’re mostly guys from around Alabama. Not sure how much land they have there but it seemed like a good bit. The land beside them has a small guide service being operated on probably around 1000 acres. I’ve tracked for them a number of times. There another smaller tract of 400-500 acres on the road going into Enon that’s leased by some local guys now that I’ve tracked for. It's all becoming more fragmented as time goes on.

The old Midway Plantation is leased by a group out of Florida as well now…..something like 4500 acres leased by only a handful of hunters. I’ve tracked for them. To the north of it is Peachburg Plantation and then a couple more tracts leased by guys out of Florida totaling several thousand acres……high dollar hunting clubs. I’ve tracked for both of them on more than one occasion. To the north of them is Down Under Plantation...I think they're like 2500 acres……tracked for them.... Then you’ve got Scottland Landing…..its something like 3000 acres of private land…tracked for them.....then there’s an old man that’s friends with Pat Dye that owns another 1000 acres beside them....and so on and so forth.....

Where are you getting that info from? There's a lot of hearsay that goes around that doesn't match up with the real release records.

http://www.outdooralabama.com/file/2309

CNC, I don't think those records are 100%. I know around 1967 a good friend of mine killed a buck just a couple of miles south of the Barbour Co. Management Area that had an aluminum tag in it's ear that was stamped "Michigan" with some numbers. I don't know where it came from, but they called Mr. Ezell, the then Game Warden in that area, and he told them to carry the tag to the management area office, which they did.

A good friend of mine’s family owns a lot of the property to the north of the management area. He’s always told me that there were deer from Michigan and Texas released around there…..I believe him but the records don’t show that. Maybe the records of restocking aren’t 100% accurate and they didn’t record many releases. I’ve hunted that property as well as another property about 7-8 miles further down 82 toward Eufaula and another property in Seale. They all had slightly different ruts. We saw really early rutting on the Seale property. The rumor that went around that hunting club was always that it was because of "Michigan deer".

I still don’t think that’s the difference in body sizes between the areas being talked about though. I’ll agree that I see a difference too. That last buck I found this season was a Pike Co deer and probably weighed 230-240 lbs. It’s the biggest deer I’ve ever seen. However, I don’t think the deer population on the Pike Co property was anywhere near as high as the Bullock Co properties. The high deer density properties have trails running everywhere that literally look like something you would see in a cattle pasture. You don't see that type deer density on just every property you go to. Also, the Pike Co property was a farm with big hay fields full of clover. Different habitats and different population densities.

A few locals to there. I believe it was actually Michigan if I'm not mistaken. If I remember correctly they were released a few miles east/northeast of there and then spread there.

There’s a record of Michigan deer being released in Butler Co…..I just wonder how much of this stuff we hear from locals and other hunting club members, etc…..is stories that have “evolved” over time if you know what I mean. I imagine some of those first deer wandered off from the original release site and eventually got killed here and there across the county or possibly even farther out. I could see how that could lead to all kinds of variations in stories of “Michigan Deer” that were released and killed. As the years pass, the stories evolve more and more. I guess it’s also plausible though that there may have been deer released that didn’t get recorded on the records we have now.


Is there a noticeable difference in Butler Co where we know for certain that Michigan deer were released?? I’ve never heard of anyone mention anything different about that area.

There were some Michigan deer released down hwy 31 on the butler lowndes Crenshaw line. Around hanoraville ft deposit area.

Genetic traits can certainly remain, but I don't know if you've ever been to Michigan, it's a little different up there...

Excuse me I it's was 12000ac

Sedgefield was 12000+ac also back before it got broke up. Sehoy and Enon was something like 23k or 24kac together

You are right about the hogs. They are about to take over if something isn’t done soon. We killed 30+ in deer season alone. Got a couple of he remote controlled traps in the works right now, hoping to do our part in keeping the numbers down. Hasn’t affected the deer hunting much so far, but obviously more hogs=less food for the deer