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Hunting Rights Agreement #2332299
12/15/17 07:10 AM
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Guys,
Take a look at this agreement that I've typed up and let me know what I should consider adding, removing, or changing.

Long story short - this is for a 50 acre family property, I've been told before by the property owner (immediate family)before that they want me to have first dibs on any hunting there, but I've never felt the need to get it in writing. Other distant relatives and family friends have hunted it but never more than 1 at a time, they'd never really done anything egregious until this morning when I found out they've dumped corn out in a field by my best stand. I've had it and am ready to see if they truly want me to have sole hunting privileges.

Hunting Rights & Permissions Agreement

I, _______________________, the Landowner, do hereby give sole hunting permission and rights to _______________________, the Hunter, on my property located at XXXXXXXXX for this date of _________________ and for all future hunting dates/seasons as outlined in the hunting laws and regulations set forth by the State of Alabama and the Division of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries.
The Landowner grants to the Hunter named above the following rights and permissions:
&#61656; To place or construct any blinds, stands, feeders, game cameras, or other hunting related equipment wherever desired on the property
&#61656; To remove or relocate any previously installed blinds, stands, feeders, game cameras, or other hunting related equipment subsequent to notification provided to the propertys rightful owner and an agreed upon date for removal of said items by the Landowner and the propertys rightful owner
&#61656; To invite 1 guest to hunt per hunting trip at the Hunters discretion.
&#61656; To receive notification of and the authority to approve/deny requests made by persons, not belonging to the immediate family of the Landowner, to use the Landowners property for any non-hunting related recreational activities during the dates of Small Game and Deer Hunting Seasons as set forth by the Alabama Division of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries.
The Hunter and any Guests agree to and are responsible for the following:
&#61656; Conducting themselves as an ethical hunter in the true sense of the word
&#61656; Not committing any act of vandalism of the Landowners property
&#61656; Reporting all such acts observed to the Landowner
&#61656; I will not hold the landowner responsible for any accidents while hunting on the property
&#61656; I will obey all Division of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries laws and regulations and will report violations to the landowner or proper authorities

LANDOWNER SIGNATURE: _______________________________
DATE: __________________

HUNTER SIGNATURE: _______________________________
DATE: __________________

Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2332320
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You could leave off that "useless as tits on a boathog" at the end! grin

Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: centralala] #2332323
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Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2332338
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Your ethics and someone else's ethics may not jibe. So that IMO doesn't hold water.

Somewhere I would use "exclusive" to mean it's set only for you. Not you and family members, Uncle Johnny's second cousin's friend up the road, etc.


Also, the corn sounds intentional. Anyone who does that knows what they're doing.


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Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2332351
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I will edit to include the exclusive word.

I agree about the corn, pretty pissed off.

Last edited by NWALJM; 12/15/17 07:49 AM.
Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2333343
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Just look up the Hunter courtesy card on outdooralabama.com


Yeah cmon. Daniel White
Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2333496
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how about changing your guest policy to just guest(s) at your discretion.
Reason: friend has a son/daughter that you want to take hunting

Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2333592
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I don't know the specifics of your situation, but if this is an immediate family member who owns the land then I would simplify that agreement a lot. No need to make it so complicated if you are not paying them any money and they can revoke the agreement at any time anyways. Just make it say you have the sole rights to hunt the land and you have landowners authorization to bring guests as well as expel anyone from the property.

I would be really hesitant as a landowner to sign anything like your current agreement if I wasn't being paid for it. If this is family property that you don't own, I would be really careful about getting too territorial over it. The landowner may get tired of dealing with the drama and say no one can hunt it. Try to make peace with the other family first.

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You and the other free hunters are in no position to make these kind of stipulations. If you want exclusive hunting rights, then make a generous offer to lease it outright. Writing a $500-1000 check could solve all the issues.


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Thanks for the input guys. First time ever having to deal with this type of situation so I wasnt sure what the right thing to do was. Now that its cooled off a bit it does seem that simplifying it to a simple agreement on hunting rights is a better option and likely where we are headed.

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Originally Posted By: WildlifeBiologist
You and the other free hunters are in no position to make these kind of stipulations. If you want exclusive hunting rights, then make a generous offer to lease it outright. Writing a $500-1000 check could solve all the issues.


Weve offered to pay for rights or lease it but the owner doesnt want us to have to do that. The situation with the corn has ended this other hunters priveleges I do believe.

Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2333898
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AFOA use to have simple lease agreements, you can always add or subtract things.

Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2333990
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Say what you mean and mean what you say. Simple english will suffice

Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2334178
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I gut write John doe has permission to hunt 1bamashooters land for the 2017-18 season. Any questions call 334-123-4567 simple


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Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2334303
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Usually when family is involved with a non-hunting landowner they allow access to all. I would secure a paid lease and get insurance. Add gates or forget the contract. Be careful for safety reasons you may not know who is hunting if you don't have restrictive access.

Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2334417
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This sounds good if you were signing a lease and paying the landowner for hunting rights. To me it seems that all you need is a written permission slip to let you hunt on the land.

My experience when someone won't take money for a lease is that they don't want to be in a position to tell another family member or close friend that they can no longer hunt because the land is leased. Not saying this is the issue in your case, but the land owner doesn't sound like he's wanting to give anyone exclusive rights. He doesn't want to take any money because then he can't let other family or friends hunt if he gives you exclusive rights. Nothing creates strife in a family like family land hunting rights. It can get ugly. I've seen it.

Hopefully you will work it out but know this, unless you yourself own the land outright, this will be an issue and all good things like this end sometime. Until then, enjoy the free hunting.

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Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2334479
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Originally Posted By: bamaeyedoc
This sounds good if you were signing a lease and paying the landowner for hunting rights. To me it seems that all you need is a written permission slip to let you hunt on the land.

My experience when someone won't take money for a lease is that they don't want to be in a position to tell another family member or close friend that they can no longer hunt because the land is leased. Not saying this is the issue in your case, but the land owner doesn't sound like he's wanting to give anyone exclusive rights. He doesn't want to take any money because then he can't let other family or friends hunt if he gives you exclusive rights. Nothing creates strife in a family like family land hunting rights. It can get ugly. I've seen it.

Hopefully you will work it out but know this, unless you yourself own the land outright, this will be an issue and all good things like this end sometime. Until then, enjoy the free hunting.

Dr. B


Agree x2

I hunt someones family land also.... I have a written permit to hunt there each season, there is one of there family members that may hunt there once or twice a year... I just try not to let it bother me, its their land and Im a guest in my opinion...

Re: Hunting Rights Agreement [Re: NWALJM] #2334640
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Thanks guys. For reasons of anonymity I cant share too many more details, but Ill say that all points made are at least in part applicable to this situation and are helpful advice. Thanks to all, and hopefully well have a resolution soon.

The last thing Ill say for now is that if everyone else that hunted the land had simply obeyed the regulations of fair chase and baiting, and not abuse the privilege of hunting someones land for free, this thread wouldnt exist.


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